Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition

matthias_livecode_150811 at matthias_livecode_150811 at
Sun Sep 5 15:31:39 EDT 2021

I must admit, that i totally agree with you.

> Am 05.09.2021 um 17:35 schrieb Bernard Devlin via use-livecode <use-livecode at>:
> .....
> Largest user demographic? Free-loaders who contributed no money but plenty
> of baseless whining?
> So many protest poverty but I'm 100% certain they spend more every year
> than the cost of an annual license fee on plenty of other things. Some of
> us paid for a license for years in order to fund something we believed in
> and wanted to see thrive, even though that meant having to forego stuff
> that the free-loaders would instead be spending their money on. FWIW my
> health problems have made it difficult for me to do any work that required
> keeping regular hours or even being able to keep appointments. Yet I'd
> bought licenses for 18 years before I bought a lifetime license (I still
> have unused licenses in my account, at one point in the last few years I
> had three concurrent licenses).  When I hear "can't afford" I translate it
> into "I prioritise my spending differently".  "If I don't make any
> financial contribution to LC Ltd I can get a new iPhone" - that kind of
> thing.  I just sacrificed other things in order to keep supporting LC.
> When they had their free toys taken away the rampant hostility from the
> free-loaders shows what little value they brought.  Some of those whining
> free-loaders have barely made 80 posts on the Forum in the past 8 years.
> Despite being a continuous license payer, despite my health problems, I
> freely gave hundreds of hours of help to people on the Forum. Some of them
> are saying "if LC Ltd had had a donate button, I'd have sent them some
> money". Yeah, right - contacting LC Ltd and asking how they could
> contribute financially was beyond their abilities.
> In 25 years on the internet, I've never before seen such a collection of
> valueless people as these whiners (they wouldn't be tolerated in any other
> business or open source community).  Most of the users of the Community
> edition are of so little value that they can't even be bothered to take
> part in the Forum and provide support to other users! When I look at the
> whiners compared to how few posts they even made on the Forum, I'm filled
> with disgust.  Have they no shame? They contribute neither time nor money.
> It's simple. Those who aren't parasites will decide to start contributing
> financially. Those who are parasites will go away, and live off some other
> community - and the absence of parasites will be beneficial. If just one of
> those who isn't a parasite takes out a standard license it will take him
> nearly 20 years to contribute as much financially as I have _since_ the
> "community" edition was launched. People like me could have simply stopped
> paying and used "the free edition" too, and this situation would have come
> about much sooner. If it turns out all of those who used the Community
> edition were parasites, what has LC Ltd lost if they vanish?
> Parasite might sound like a strong word, but what word do you use for
> someone who takes, takes, takes but never gives back, contributing nothing
> else than to make an organism weaker?
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