Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
Kevin Miller
kevin at livecode.com
Fri Sep 3 10:01:32 EDT 2021
There are some good suggestions here around the Lagi, thank you. We will certainly be exploring ways to make that experience just right in the coming days.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
LiveCode: Develop Yourself
On 02/09/2021, 22:33, "use-livecode on behalf of Lagi Pittas via use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com on behalf of use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
Trials of 14 days or even 30 days are a waste of time. I can install
something and use it for a couple of days - then life / work gets in the way
so It sits on the computer for 31 days and then times out.
You then have to waste your time and the companies to get an extension,
and by the time they answer
you get cheesed off and remove the program.
The BEST trial is the one that lasts for 30 actual executions or 6 months
(whichever comes first).
This stops the clever SOD who decides to keep it running without exiting
for 6 months but it times out anyway.
Even better if he keeps it on for 2 days it counts as "executing" twice so
it will last 30 days.
This means I have 30 days over a 6 month period to really test it without
rushing.
The people who would game the system are the people who won't be loyal
customer anyway, so not giving a worthwhile trial period handicaps those
who want to give it a good try.
You can also put a nag screen at the start of any executable with an OK
button link to a special discounted price - free marketing (what a
brilliant Idea, why didn't I think of it?).
But the best way of selling it is to FIX the bloody IDE - I am running on a
16G 1 year Old 8th Generation CoreI7 processor and it STILL runs like
treacle.
If I downloaded it today as a new person it would be off my machine in less
than 30 minutes.
You could also use this as your "marketing" system by "giving it away" to
schools for nothing and without the trial period but the nag screen.
It can then be used by the students to learn programming at no cost - and
some of the students parent might pony up for a paid for version at a
student price (with no expiring standalones of cours - the most stupid idea
of the lot so far)
Anyway Kevin, have I/we wastedour time again putting out these cranky,
stupid and not workable suggestions?.
Lagi
On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 15:55, Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> We *are* considering the length of the trial actively, we may well give a
> longer trial a shot at some point.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kevin
>
> Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
> LiveCode: Develop Yourself
>
> On 02/09/2021, 15:51, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via
> use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com on behalf of
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> True, true.
>
> There could be a small group of programmers that pass a stack around
> but you would not be able to convince/teach a civilian to install a
> programming IDE and explain how to run the stack along with any other
> supporting files, SW or plug-ins... Mobile would be a non-starter. I would
> not dismiss this out-of-hand. A 90 day free IDE could also be an option.
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdimola at evergreeninfo.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On
> Behalf Of Kevin Miller via use-livecode
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2021 10:31 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Kevin Miller; Michael Kristensen
> Subject: Re: Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
>
> Thanks for the constructive suggestion. Unfortunately with a free
> non-app building version, everyone who needs to run an app can just
> download that.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kevin
>
> Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
> LiveCode: Develop Yourself
>
> On 02/09/2021, 14:49, "use-livecode on behalf of Michael Kristensen
> via use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com on behalf of
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there
>
> I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
>
> That would be for personal use, and to learn coding.
>
> Michael
>
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