Design Question

[ELS Prothero]

I’m re-sending this because I used the wrong email server.
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 8:46 AM, William Prothero <waprothero at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> David and Graham,
> One approach that occurred to me is this.
> There are 2 components to the work that students would “hand in” to their teacher. It would consist of simple text and images. So, would it be practical to create a simple pdf as a single file that includes these elements and send that to the teacher as an attachment? The teacher could then either base grading on that pdf alone or use another small app that I write (or other pdf editing software) to add comments and/or a grade to the pdf and return it to the student.
> 
> I haven’t tried to create PDFs in Livecode, but from some of the postings, it seems practical. I’m not sure about the deconstruction in a Livecode app, but a quick google search shows a lot of apps for annotating PDFs.
> 
> Tnx for any comments or wisdom.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:15 AM, David V Glasgow <dvglasgow at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Oooh!  For once I might make a contribution!
>> 
>> I had the same issue in a healthcare context.  These IT systems vary tremendously between services, are complex and often hard to connect with - either by design, or by lack of interest in supporting other software.
>> 
>> I found the best way to get a combo education and training/clinical app to be accepted was to create it with no dependencies (local or online), no attempt to connect with management systems, no writing of data anywhere, just the ability to copy and paste charts and data that nurses can incorporate into other reports.  Although clinical information systems are hostile to most actions, they have to allow pictures (like x rays and other scans) and spread sheet data to be pasted into the record.  Ironically, they almost all allow Word documents to be incorporated into the clinical record too.  Nurses don’t need to be shown how to do these things, because they wrestle with ugly, poorly designed clinical information systems on a daily basis.
>> 
>> In other words, you’re on the money, I think.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> David G
>> 
>>>> On 16 Nov 2020, at 11:28 pm, William Prothero via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> I’m refining an application I used to teach Plate Tectonics when I was a working prof. The application’s core is access to Earth data (that scientists used to develop the theory of plate tectonics) and capturing and annotating plots that can be incorporated into student writing.
>>> 
>>> I am adding features that give the student (and teacher) more direction about how to use the material. The final student product would be some kind of short writeup with figures, that presents student results of their exploration using the data in the application. The major goal is to have students learn about the process of doing science and writing about their results.
>>> 
>>> However, I am thinking hard about how to proceed. It seems the effort to make this app work with learning management systems would be huge, something I’m definitely not up for. Yet, an assignment with text and figures needs to be packaged in some way that is easy for students to use, but can be transmitted to the teacher (who will make comments, assign a grade, and return it to the student) in some efficient way. What I’m thinking, at the simplest level, is to export the text and figures of the student’s work and let the student create a final product using word, Pages, google classroom, or some other application I haven’t thought about  but which they would normally have access to.
>>> 
>>> I’d love to have any of you teachers’ ideas and/or experience with great ways to proceed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> William A. Prothero
>>> https://earthlearningsolutions.org
>>> 
>>> 
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