Guessing the encoding of a test file...

[Bob Sneidar]

If the files submitted to you do not need to retain their original formats for your purposes, why not just convert them all to a standard format? it's my understanding if you open the file using low level file commands without the binfile parameter, LC will convert the data into the local encoding. I might be mistaken. 

It would help to have a sample file for testing. 

Bob S


> On Mar 19, 2020, at 16:46 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Users of our application may use text files any whatever encoding their local system creates them in. We can not tell them to only create such files with a specific encoding. So, we need to detect the encoding of the text file the user selects.
> 
> As I mentioned, I have an LC script that implements a encoding guessing algorithm. I am looking for an alternative or better one if someone out there happened to have created one they might like to share or license.
> 
> Any such routine needs to work on macOS and Windows and return the types used by the LC textDecode function.
> 
> I already knew about file on OSX, but I needs a x-platform solution.
> 
> 
> On 3/19/2020 6:15 PM, Pi Digital via use-livecode wrote:
>> On a mac it’s easy. Use
>> file -I “MyFile.txt”
>>  as a shell script.
>> 
>> On Windows it’s near impossible without running a whole bunch or arbitrary tests that may or may not be correct - certainly not accurate.
>> 
>> What kind of text were you hoping to see? Was you looking for a particular encoding? If it is grammatical text there’s are a bunch or runs you can do to see what character sets are used but even then it’s only a ‘probably’/‘possibly’ response.
>> 
>> Sean Cole
>> Pi Digital
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2020, at 20:31, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This has come up many times before, but I'll ask once again in case something has changed or someone new sees this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a routine that will take a filespec to a text file and return the guessed encoding of the text file?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> First, please don't respond with your should know the encoding or the users should know the encoding of their files. Not possible in the widely uncontrolled real world.
>>> 
>>> I do already have a routine to guess file encodings. It was written by someone else. There are instances where it should work and does not. I fear there may be errors in the algorithm and I do not have the original algorithm to check it against. Hence, I am looking for an alternative that is either free to use or to be licensed for a modest fee.
>>> 
>>> My current routine attempts to return the encoding as a string that can be directly passed to textDecode(binaryData,encoding)
>>> 
>>> "ASCII"
>>> "UTF-16"
>>> "UTF-16BE"
>>> "UTF-16LE"
>>> "UTF-32"
>>> "UTF-32BE"
>>> "UTF-32LE"
>>> "UTF-8"
>>> "CP1252" *
>>> "MacRoman" *
>>> 
>>> * for these last 2, if the file is MacRoman on a Windows system, you actually have to textDecode(macToISO(data),"CP1252") and if you have CP1252 on the Mac, you need to do textDecode(isoToMac(data),"MacRoman"). There is an enhancement request to support MacRoman decoding under WIndows and vice versa at https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22391 if you want to CC yourself to show interest.
>>> 
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