CentOS Death in 2021

Sean Cole (Pi) sean at pidigital.co.uk
Mon Dec 14 20:19:11 EST 2020


Hi Richmond,

You're probably right. However, with security issues constantly needing
keeping up to date with, it's probably worth working out if it is worth
supporting Linux at all, then. If they, LC, feel it 'is' worth supporting
Linux, it is surely, then, essential to keep up with these latest versions
to help their customers avoid security issues.

That, I guess, is an issue in of itself. It is remarkable LC is as well
supporting of newish OS's as it is, particularly MacOS and Win10, keeping
security by encryption and TLS, etc, up to date. Linux is a wayward child,
however. Difficult to keep on top off. Even though their update cycles are
not as frequent as Win/Mac.

Thanks

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital *

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 08:14, Richmond via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> "I wonder why LC don’t state support for later Ubuntu, Fedora or Debian
> builds?"
>
> I suspect that LiveCode believes that the uptake of the Linux version is
> insufficient to justify the effort of testing LC on those platforms.
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 14.12.20 2:20, Pi Digital via use-livecode wrote:
> > Thanks all. These insights are useful. Hery’s explanation of their
> choice to move to Debian provides a good argument. I had just tried Ubuntu
> 20.04 in a parallels virtual machine and my server app worked ok. I will
> try a Debian build too. I wonder why LC don’t state support for later
> Ubuntu, Fedora or Debian builds?
> >
> > Sean Cole
> > Pi Digital
> >
> >> On 13 Dec 2020, at 19:27, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Sean,
> >>
> >> I've been using LiveCode on Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 for years (Servers
> and Desktops) and it worked fine.  A years ago we migrated everything to
> CentOS / RedHat and Fedora (development machines and servers).  However, we
> are going to migrate everything  to Debian.
> >> Debian is very stable and offers the same user experience on Laptops,
> Workstations and Servers.
> >>
> >> Ubuntu is a good system, but after the drift from CentOS with IBM I
> don't want to put the heart of our systems in the hands of any big company.
> >> What would happen if tomorrow Ubuntu is acquired by Microsoft and they
> decide to charge money for it? That's not the case with Debian: Debian is
> completely independent and rock solid.
> >>
> >> I live between Madrid and New York and in both cities there are good
> professional companies who offer commercial technical support for Debian,
> so you don't need any big and greedy corps getting their hands on your IT
> systems.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Hery
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 12/13/20 12:40 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I just heard the news that RedHat is going to be dropping support for
> >>> CentOS. With my recent issues with PDF Printing in CentOS, I was
> already
> >>> looking to perhaps try out CentOS8 or another Dist. but now we have
> this
> >>> news I'm thinking of going to Ubuntu.
> >>>
> >>> The release notes for LC says it supports Ubuntu 16.04, which is cool.
> But
> >>> I notice my server host says they have 16.04, 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10.
> Is
> >>> anyone out there running LC on one of these later builds of Ubuntu? I'd
> >>> like to hear your thoughts. Or maybe I should be looking at Fedora.
> >>>
> >>> All the very best
> >>>
> >>> Sean Cole
> >>> *Pi Digital *
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