Give a bug a hug

[Lagi Pittas]

Now I'm a little peeved.

Richard said ....
"He's one of about three people who keep going back to the Kickstarter
list as some form of eternal damnation against the team, "

Forget about the kickstarter - I will say it one more time

There was crowd funding for a new Sqlite library  with a timescale of 3
months (lets assume i'm wrong -  6 months - whose counting) running at the
same time as that "update" of 2016.
Even if they were a year late that would be understandable but producing
nothing at all smacks of taking from Peter to pay Paul (there I said it).

Richard I understand that LC for FM is what they are betting the farm on
and I agree with them - I am just asking for some transparency - resources
allocated.
I'm not stupid to think that a small team can do everything promised  but
would 1 person allocated to finishing off all the other stuff be too much
too ask?

Lagi

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 03:57, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Pi Digital wrote:
>
>  >> On 8 Oct 2019, at 21:42, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>  >>
>  >> And here is a May 2016 update:
>  >>
>  >>
>
> https://livecode.com/trevor-devore-interviews-kevin-mark-on-infinite-livecode/
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> A small number of people keep going round and round on this a large
>  >> number of times.
>  >>
>  >> How many times will the same conversation happen before more recent
>  >> information is absorbed?
>  >
>  > An excellent article. Which part was you pointing to in reference to
>  > Lagi’s question about older campaigns funded that have still not met
>  > the core?
>
> There's a section in the middle listing off the accomplishments since
> the Kickstarter, and some of the discussion goes into how much of that
> was paid for out-of-pocket.
>
>
>  > And which part do you refer to when asserting that absorption of info
>  > is needed to reduce the same conversations recursion rate?
>
> The portion of Lagi's post I had originally quoted in my reply:
>
>      This is what I was talking about being treated like mushrooms
>      - no communication as to what the future holds.- rough timescales
>      as to when new or reassigned resources will be implemented - what
>      is the intention with sqlite, 2d physics, Audio ....
>
> He's one of about three people who keep going back to the Kickstarter
> list as some form of eternal damnation against the team, and he knows
> that I know that he's read comments here and in the forums from Kevin
> and other team members that have discussed all of that over and over and
> over and over again.
>
> How many times does Kevin need to post a mea culpa about being among the
> 80% of software project leaders that underestimated cost?  Apparently
> half a dozen isn't enough.
>
> In summary: Most of the list was delivered, most of the remainder is in
> the DB as feature requests to be completed as resources permit.
>
>
> Kevin, Heather, Mark and others have been very forthcoming here about
> what the company is working on, at least to the degree that this
> community allows.  But there's not much allowance granted:
>
> As they've explained many times, they've joined the majority of
> companies less willing to offer loose projections about delivery times
> precisely because of things like this.  If they give a projected
> deadline and circumstances change, it will become a dominant and
> repeated theme among a very small but very vocal minority.  This isn't
> unique to LC; their previous candor was a distinction.  Now they operate
> like everyone else, because the moment they dare to discuss anything not
> already in the can they expose themselves to a continuation of this same
> tediousness that every other company figured out how to avoid by keeping
> cards close.
>
> Wanna know what Apple's working on for 2020? Good luck.
>
> --
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