Recommended specs for Windows Development computer.

J. Landman Gay jacque at hyperactivesw.com
Sun Oct 6 12:29:32 EDT 2019


I leave as much extra width as possible and sometimes make the textheight a 
little taller than necessary. Usually it's just the width that's a problem. 
That doesn't work too well if showborder is true though.

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On October 6, 2019 10:38:14 AM Jjs via use-livecode 
<use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> How do you people cope with the differences on fields and knobs having text 
> in it on the different OS-es? If i only build on windows even for Linux and 
> Macos, text and such never fits in the fields.And i have to adjust it and 
> maintain a stack for each OS.
>
> Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> 
> schreef op 4 oktober 2019 19:40:16 CEST:
>> The original question mentioned testing and debugging.
>>
>> I tend to develop on the Mac and test on Windows. At times I need to
>> develop on Windows because there are unknowns in the environment or I'm
>> using some Windows specific hardware. Especially internal hardware.
>>
>> It is a big pain to have multiple programming stations, so I set up
>> Windows workstations with monitors, keyboards and mice as needed. I
>> prefer to have my big wide monitor on my Mac and then remote in. I
>> currently use no-machine to access Windows machines.
>>
>> The focus in the discussion has been on processor, RAM and disk. For me
>> however, other hardware is important. That is, that which makes it hard
>> to test with virtualization needs to be in the real hardware. And often
>> one needs real hardware. Virtual Box has been good to me as far as
>> emulating hardware, but I need to test on real stuff.
>>
>> So, for me, the most important part is not so much processor-RAM-disk,
>> but I/O. I want lots of USB and a variety of such, front and back. I
>> want board slots. I want multiple NICs. RS-232 is a big plus. A
>> powerful GPU is a plus, but I hope to build a computation server
>> someday. Multiple kinds of video is good as well as handling multiple
>> monitors. I want Bluetooth and Wifi. I want WoL. Though I use
>> no-machine, I want to be able to remote desktop in, so W8.1 needs to be
>> Pro. As soon as I get a computer, a customer will come up with
>> something I neglected, so those slots are important. I get Pro for
>> everything if I can.) For a different machine, I might want something
>> with a touch screen that I can carry around.
>>
>> In my last buy, I compromised. I did not get high performance or slots.
>>
>> And speaking of Pro, Windows 10 Pro is, out of the box, friendly to us
>> old guys.
>>
>> As far as development on the Mac, Bootcamp does not work well for me, I
>> want to see all of my screens on all of my computers. Parallels is
>> good, but I have found that when Parallels and VMWare say no, Virtual
>> Box says yes. What good is higher RPM when you can't get it into
>> reverse? In general, virtualization allows me to swap out hardware or
>> display sizes quickly, bing, bing, bing. Network configuration testing?
>> No searching for switches, routers and cables.
>>
>> Just going by my memory (I recommend against trusting it), I do not see
>> a big performance hit. I think LiveCode on Windows 10 Pro on Virtual
>> Box 6 on Mac Mini runs slightly faster than LiveCode on macOS on
>> MacMini. That could be my imagination. Disk I/O might be a lot slower,
>> but it did not affect me. I typically use a LAN drive for such testing,
>> anyway, unless the tests directly involve a local drive.
>>
>> I have used MSDN Operating Systems to build a variety of virtual
>> machines and to load on real machines. However, things seem to be
>> different. Now the best way seems to be Visual Studio Pro, $1200 for
>> the first year, $800 for subsequent.
>>
>> Dar
>> Mad Scientist
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 2:34 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> For anyone truly interested in the original question of "Recommended
>> specs for Windows Development computer"
>>>
>>> (... as opposed to any OS-partisan virtue signaling, or avoiding
>> Windows hardware, or maintaining a single computer as the rule, etc
>> ...)
>>>
>>> here's my take, from many years of often "Windows first, but not
>> Windows only" experience:
>>>
>>> - Biggest OS difference/biggest factor: anti-virus. I've literally
>> seen a Mac running with software techniques similar to today's PC
>> antivirus, and similar results.
>>>
>>> - I don't trust my PC to run Mac, nor my Mac to run PC. I get my
>> hands dirty on both, with dedicated hardware for each. You notice
>> more....
>>>
>>> - PC doesn't require a huge investment. I use a budget (but not
>> bottom) laptop with as much hard disk and RAM as possible. Currently an
>> i5 chip and 8 GB memory, 1 TB RAM.
>>>
>>> - The specs I listed are quite adequate for professional LC dev. Any
>> extra power feels great, but remember that it also could cause you to
>> overlook issues affecting some of your end users. I intentionally use
>> budget hardware to make sure software is snappy for everyone.
>>>
>>> - Again, with Windows 10 it's all about managing antivirus and
>> various other software/settings to be allowed to use the inherent
>> performance of your machine. The power is in there, but you have to
>> remove the ball and chains.
>>>
>>> - Any OS-partisan biases (in other words reliving the 80s and 90s,
>> which felt so good) will tend to be confirmed by their own cognitive
>> influence on your perception of your limited experiences on another OS.
>> Using a system efficiently takes experience and learning, built into
>> habits. (There once was a system called MacOS that for a number of
>> years pretty much broke that rule. And during those bygone years, I was
>> proudly "Mac-first, but not Mac only.") Whatever OS you use, just
>> realize that many everyday users are equally efficient on the other
>> operating systems.
>>>
>>> I like having and using both almost daily, as long as I'm developing
>> for both. And developing for both is specifically how I ended up right
>> here! :)
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Curry Kenworthy
>>>
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