LiveCode server IDE - the current state of the art?

Keith Clarke keith.clarke at me.com
Fri Jul 20 08:58:23 CEST 2018


Thanks for describing your setup, Alex. 

I like the ‘work locally as usual, then upload’ approach - coupled with the essential 'Did everything synch?' check utility! :-)

The lightweight LCS hub is very appealing (probably without RevIgniter to avoid any additional complexity) to get the basic plumbing connected.

Time to hit the LCS lessons to see if I can replicate what you're achieving with 20-lines, methinks! :-)
Best,
Keith

> From: Alex Tweedly <alex at tweedly.net>
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> Subject: Re: LiveCode server IDE - the current state of the art?
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> I have no idea if this is state of the art or not :-) - but here's what 
> I do ...
> 
> 
> Short answer : the Livecode IDE plus an FTP client (Filezilla).
> 
> Longer answer :
> 
> 99% of what I write for the LC server is standard LC - scriptonly 
> stacks, used as library stacks.
> 
> I have about 20 lines of LCS - just enough to look around and "start 
> using" the relevant librarystacks, and then invoke the top-level 
> handler. (This is actually in a revIgniter controller because I use 
> revIgniter, but the same thing would work even if I didn't).
> 
> This lets me develop and test most of it in a convenient environment 
> (the IDE, on my own laptop). I keep a copy of the scripts locally, along 
> with enough of the database to do testing. I have a small "test-harness" 
> app that lets me set parameters as though from the URL.
> 
> All output is done through my own handlers - which then either output on 
> LC Server, or output to log/status/output fields and a browser widget in 
> the test app. All DB access is done through a shim layer which uses 
> Andre's DBLib + sqlite on the laptop and revIgniter's DB Lib + MySQL on 
> the server.
> 
> I don't use revIgniter's "Views" - I have my own library which provides 
> the equivalent functionality in a way that lets me give website 
> maintainers access to it, without giving them access to anything within 
> revIgniter's 'system' folder.? (This also lets me test on the IDE).
> 
> I have a variety of ancillary files which I edit with other editors 
> (currently trying out Atom for small changes, but falling back to emacs 
> when there are larger or complex changes to do).
> 
> Only problem I've run into with this approach is that sometimes I will 
> edit and test a file (or a number of files)? locally, and forget to 
> upload one or some :-(? So I have a small 'sync' app which runs on the 
> laptop, and uses a LC Server script on the website, to flag up any 
> differences in the 'should be identical' files.
> 
> Alex.
> 
> On 19/07/2018 08:01, Keith Clarke via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> I?m attempting to engage with LiveCode Server after a couple of years since I last played - when the approach was to roll your own IDE (i.e. pick a text editor) and optionally use the RevIgnitor framework.
>> 
>> I?d be obliged if anyone could please update me on the current state of the art and share their personal tool-belt preference (target environment is a Linux VPS).
>> Thanks & regards
>> Keith
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