stack rect with decorations?

[Richard Gaskin]

My dictionary doesn't work and I don't see what I need in the See Also 
for the online dicts, so maybe someone here remembers:

How do I specify that I want to set the rect of a stack where the 
coordinates I'm passing are for the full outside rect, including all 
window trimmings (border, title bar, etc.)?

TIA -

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