MikeKerner at roadrunner.com
Mon May 15 19:14:36 CEST 2017
So back to what happened on Friday, in the western world, firms that have
large investments in large and very expensive pieces of gear (which, I
forgot to mention also carry lead times of 12-18 months in many cases), and
large and very expensive software systems weren't paranoid enough. I can't
speak to what happened in the former Eastern Bloc, since they were hit much
harder than everyone else, but I suspect that glasnost has not been as good
for them as they may have hoped. No one has mentioned it, but I have to
wonder what happened behind PRC's Great Firewall, and in DPRK. I would
also be curious to see, over the coming weeks, how severe the effect was in
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> The 800 lb gorilla would died of a broken thigh-bone because while
> a gorilla's height may increase in one dimension, its volume and weight
> will increase in
> 3 dimensions, and its bone cross-section in 2 dimensions, so its
> thigh-bones will not
> be strong enough to carry its weight: hence King Kong being a
> This may well be M$'s problem . . . .
> Although the way Apple behave I cannot somehow see them in the role
> of Fay Wray!
> On 5/15/17 7:48 pm, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
>> First and foremost, you might expect M$ to be able to deliver an OS that
>> backward compatible, since they are the 800 lb. gorilla in this
>> conversation. They put out the specs that all the hardware vendors built
>> to, before they decided to change the rules and go in a direction that
>> broke everything. When all the hardware vendors were screaming, was M$
>> trying to build a compatibility layer? No? It's similar to what Apple
>> does every time they change the connector for their phones, just on a much
>> more severe level.
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> Mike Kerner wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, there are very expensive pieces of gear that have
>>>> controls on them that for one reason or another cannot be controlled
>>>> by OS's newer than XP. I happen to have one, here. It cost
>>>> $750,000. There is no dealing with the OS issue without replacing
>>>> the control, and that is also extremely expensive, on the order of
>>>> $400,000, so you would not replace the control without replacing the
>>>> whole unit. M$, when they decided to dump the XP paradigm, just like
>>>> when they got rid of DOS, broke upgradability for ATM's, machine
>>>> tools and CMM's, X-Ray and MRI machines, PBX's, etc.
>>> All systems eventually reach end-of-life. If a vendor has enough
>>> technical expertise to deliver hardware worth $750k, it seems reasonable
>>> expect that expertise would include sufficient familiarity with system
>>> cycles to anticipate a need for modular upgrades.
>>> Richard Gaskin
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