AW: [OT]h.264 alternatives

Warren Samples warren at
Mon Jul 24 18:23:51 CEST 2017

On 07/24/2017 02:54 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote:
> Last year I asked Sorenson media if I have to pay license fees, using the h.264 codec and got the following answer from Sorenson:
> "No, you do not need to pay any license fees to use any codecs included in Squeeze. Sorenson Media pays any license fees necessary for all the codecs contained in Squeeze. Once you have encoded your video with a licensed product, like Squeeze, you will never need to pay any licensing fees again."
> I assume that’s the same using other compressing tools
> Tiemo

There is so much confusion regarding licenses! Ironically one of the 
main purposes of the MPEG-LA group is to simplify licensing for users 
and distributors by centralizing the process.

 From suspect amateur legal advice from internet forum "experts", opaque 
and/or seemingly non-complimentary statements from software distributors 
and MPEG-LA itself, and the lack of comprehensive definitive 
information, it's really hard for someone interested in getting it 
"right" to know what to do without hiring expensive attorneys.

Regarding the ENCODER distributed with device OSs and software, 
including professional software, whose EULAs state that use of the 
encoder has only been licensed for personal and non-commercial use; it 
seems from what the MPEG-LA says that this does not mean there is 
another level of license required to use the software in professional 
production. It points to the possible necessity of royalty payments for 
finished content distribution. Please see:



(This is a very long back and forth, you have to read all of it to 
gather all the information.)

The distribution of encoded content is completely separate from the 
encoder issue. Content distributors might be wise to request a license 
even if their usage does not trigger royalty payments.

Sorenson has not paid, nor could it begin to calculate how to pay any 
royalties due on content distributed by its own users, but it is clear 
you don't have to pay any additional fee simply to use Squeeze to 
produce content for paid distribution. (According to the MPEG-LA 
licensing associate.) You could be required to pay to distribute that 
content depending on your circumstances.

When distributing content via YouTube for exaqmple, MPEG-LA view YouTube 
as the distributor and liable for any licensing fees, not the content 
creator. (Again, according to the MPEG-LA licensing associate.)

I hope this was helpful but I make no promises :)


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