OK, the list *really* needs to be fixed

[Mike Bonner]

Just got kicked again.  *sigh*  Despite successfully receiving a boatload
of messages from the list today.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Bob Sneidar <bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com>
wrote:

> Fair enough, except that list servers are supposed to be configured in
> such a way so as to get around this. A list server *should* send a separate
> email to each user in a list, NOT one email to ALL the users in the list.
> The latter will definitely get "DMARC'd" as spam, especially if the
> addresses are not in the BCC field. Also, the list server *should* send the
> emails in a throttled way, so as not to raise any flags.
>
> It may be that gmail has tightened their DMARC rules, and so an adjustment
> needs to be made in the list server to accomodate them. If this cannot be
> done, it might be advisable to use a different domain. Mail issues like
> this are definitely a nuisance, but in the modern age where email accounts
> are getting compromised, providers are understandably a bit skittish.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Jan 3, 2017, at 09:08 , J. Landman Gay <jacque at hyperactivesw.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Found this explanation:
> > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2015-
> December/080211.html
> >
> > It includes this:
> >
> > Let us say you have 5 users on your list, user1 at aol.com, user2 at
> aol.com, user3 at aol.com user4 at aol.com and user5 at aol.com. user1 at
> aol.com posts a piece of mail to your list. mailman tries to deliver to
> user2, user3, user4 and user5 @ aol.com aol says "drop dead, we don't
> talk to you because of our DMARC policy" mail to user2 user3 user4 and
> user5 bounces. Their bounce count is incremented.
> >
> > user2 at aol.com posts a piece of mail to your list. mailman tries to
> deliver to user1, user3, user4 and user5 @ aol.com aol says "drop dead,
> we don't talk to you because of our DMARC policy" mail to user1 user3 user4
> and user5 bounces. Their bounce count is incremented. and so on. Every time
> somebody from aol sends mail to the list, it bounces for every other aol
> member on your list. Their bounce counts increase.
> >
> > One day, some message sends some of the bounce counts over the limit
> mailman has, after which it says -- Too many bounces! I cannot deliver mail
> to this account! Unsubscribe this person! And, because of the way things
> have happened you get a triggering message which causes a lot of
> unsubscribes _from the same site_.
> >
> > Jacqueline Landman Gay         |     jacque at hyperactivesw.com
> > HyperActive Software           |     http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> >
> >
> >
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