Revenue and the Open Source edition

JB sundown at
Wed May 4 06:20:36 CEST 2016

I think the community version would have
more community involvement if they gave
people more externals to show them how
to create externals.

I get the feeling tje mothership does not
want community advancement externals.

And so it is obvious everyone cannot be
involved in programming the open source
version for many different reasons.  That
leaves people little chance to participate
by adding code.  Use it, point out bugs
and pay money.  That is not what I was
hoping for.


> On May 3, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Robert Mann <rman at> wrote:
> I goes one of the central issue of a community version.. is.. community!?
> How to make people feel member of the community? get them involved?
> One way of doing that is to let people buy something maybe not much, but
> something. That was the idea of the pay once upgrade when you feel which was
> tried before. 
> Paradoxically, with the community version, the more we move ahead from the
> great community foundation kickstart, the less there may be a feel of
> community!!?? what do you think?
> So maybe the question about Open source Edition and revenue? could be
> rephrased to something different like :: Open source edition and BENEFITS
> (of all kinds to the livecode ecosystem) ???
> As an example, I'm pretty sure that many of us really like that
> language/tool and would take some time to promote it e.g. at schools. That
> would need organization and incentives, like.. the benefit of more
> affordable  commercial license schemes that could even be traded to help out
> people start up something. And that would cost nothing and could be an
> important medium term benefit.
> On the whole, i feel mothership is kind of into  shyzophrenic situation ::
> the move to open source certainly was a generous move, event though at that
> time it may just have been death and exit otherwise. And the other hand we
> feel a commercial pressure with prices going up and up for the little rock
> of commercial folks.
> I was surprised to see that the "community" developments fundings were not
> so successful. it was a way of carrying forward the initial kickstart move.
> Maybe that should be tried agin, possibly with a different organization :
> would it change the results if the community participated to selection of
> developments proposed? or even.. drove them!? well hum, that would be
> revolution that would imp lie seeing up some kind of representation of that
> community.
> Livecode Community could be well used for a lot of "community" actions in
> our societies. I though personally of attending the "units debuts comity of
> computing" in Paris just to talk to them about livecode because they need to
> build a set of tools and livecode community would be just right. and that
> would greatly expose livecode (they gather 250 geeks from Paris..
> imagine..). 
> Now that mothership has embarked on the community track, the next step could
> well be to get together some kind of representation of the group to
> exchange, meet, discuss and relay etc with the objective to establish such a
> community feeling??
> And that could have a huge potential to motivate, generate many actions that
> bring those many benefits, that are hard to see yet with a close view to
> revenues.
> My cents!
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