Revenue and the Open Source edition

RM richmondmathewson at
Mon May 2 15:34:10 EDT 2016

I don't know about "clever Richmond", but what I do know about is lots 
of clever Primary and Secondary school kids (pace Grade/Middle/High)
who come along, listen to my "wibble", watch me move chess pieces around 
the table, move beans around a mancala board, and then sit right down
and dig into Livecode without a backward look.

I give them an I+1 task, and they start work on paper, then move to the 
machines, cross-fertilise with each other, and I generally sit behind them
looking at what they are doing on screen and throw them the odd "bone" 
from time to time, or they ask me intelligent questions which I do my
best to answer.

There does NOT need to be all that "dumbing down" crap because school 
kids today are, on the whole, no more stupid than we were when we were that
age, and Livecode on a Linux PC beats either bashing FORTRAN holes in 
cards or a Research machine jacked into a black-&-white telly any day of 
the week.

There does NOT need to be " a special pricing scheme" for schools 
because we already have the best possible pricing scheme imaginable: FREE.

Possibly, just possibly, if kids are "fed" LIvecode at school, those 
that become programmers will be prepared tpo pay for a commercial 
version; so,
while Livecode does not need a special price, it should be pushing 
Livecode in schools worldwide a million times more than it is at the moment.

Who, apart from a few schools in Scotland and the USA has heard of Livecode?

As has been pointed out; the Livecode team are working very hard indeed 
to produce a fantastic product, but regardless of it fantasticness
if it isn't adopted their efforts will be for not very much; so, it's 
like pushing drugs . . . "Psst, heard about the latest cool computer thing?"


On 2.05.2016 22:20, Peter M. Brigham wrote:
> On May 2, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Earthednet-wp wrote:
>> Folks,
>> Richmond, thanks for your forthright posts and entertaining metaphors!
>> Re fees, licenses, etc, I am a retired prof who spent a lot of years programming for research, then to support student learning in a large oceanography class. My son is an elementary teacher who teaches Lego robotics. It seems to me that a difficult, but ripe local market is being plumbed by Richmond. But, on a larger scale, I find teachers are easily put off by what appears to be complicated, time consuming new resources. They are extremely busy and collapse in a heap during their summer time off, unless they are running summer classes and "camps" (like my son is) to pay the bills. It seems to me that Richmond, so creative, is in a position to expand his business model to include teachers who want to teach basic programming, with a kid oriented approach. Perhaps to control dinosaur robots, or some such. I know there's scratch and all the Arduino resources, but perhaps there is a niche for livecode. But, bottom line, teachers need to get sucked in with a complete plug and play resource that will excite kids and require very little up front time. Maybe there would be an income stream? Online support, code help??
> Back in the day, Apple marketed heavily to the teaching/educational market, and the result was a generation of kids who grew up using Macs. IMO, Edinburgh would do well to try to get LC used by as many teachers at the middle school and high school level as possible (and why not grade school too?) -- the multiplier effect here would be enormous. I would think that a special pricing scheme for educators would be an extremely good investment in the long run, even if there were scanty short-run returns.
> -- Peter
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