Version 8, DP16 Tutorial Runthrough

[William Prothero]

Ali:
That’s true. I had the Property Labels set to “Description”. I actually never set it, but it was that way from earlier versions, probably. 
Best,
Bill

> On Mar 17, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Ali Lloyd <ali.lloyd at livecode.com> wrote:
> 
> I think some of your issues may be because you have the property inspector
> set to Property Labels -> Name of LiveCode property rather than Description
> of Option. I'll add a bug report to make sure the latter option is selected
> during the tutorial.
> 
> The double click on the inspector icon is actually a very subtle bug:
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17154
> 
> All the rest is very helpful feedback, thank you!
> 
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:41 PM William Prothero <prothero at earthednet.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Folks:
>> I just downloaded LC 8 DP16 and tried out the tutorial. I suspect that the
>> authors of this would appreciate my notes as I went through the tutorial.
>> First, off, it’s really nice and does show that Livecode can make very cool
>> apps. Great job!
>> 
>> Since this is the first intro a newbie might get to Livecode, it’s really
>> vital that the tutorial process be flawless. That’s why I’m hoping my
>> comments below are helpful, and I do know how hard it can be, when the IDE
>> may be a slightly moving target and there is LOTS to do.
>> 
>> As you can read from my notes below, I took the perspective of a new user
>> who has never been exposed to livecode. There were a few gotchas that even
>> had me scratching my head a bit. One very important thing when teaching
>> newbies, is to scrupulously pay attention to how the instructions actually
>> match what the newbie sees on the screen. There were a number of instances
>> where I got stuck, but then got by by guessing what was meant. These are
>> noted below.
>> 
>> ——— My Notes ————
>> 1. When open the property inspector for the stack, you have to click on
>> the property inspector to get the instruction.
>> Careful to match instructions with actual labels on IDE.
>> (e.g. “Set the Navigation names of” ? There is no listing in the property
>> inspector named “Navigation Names”)
>> (e.g. Line Thickness.  you mean Line size)
>> 
>> 2. It says in several places, to click on the “grey icon”. You mean the
>> black icon.
>> Clicking the property inspector icon doesn’t always open the property
>> inspector. Double clicking on the control does.
>> 
>> 3. I got stuck on setting the contents property of the Label field.
>> Whoops, figured it out.
>>    The “Contents” property is not listed on the property inspector. It is
>> called “Styled Text"
>> 
>> 4. I got to where I grouped the header and footer to make it a shared.
>> Whoops, the property inspector opened for one of the elements of the group.
>> I used the right hand (upper) dropdown menu on the property inspector and
>> it looked like there was a listing for a group. I selected that. It worked!
>> A newbie probably wouldn’t find it.
>> 
>> 5. Setting up the chart. “Line colors”, the IDE shows “Graph Colors”
>> 
>> 6. Setting "navigation names" doesn’t match the property inspector.
>> 
>> 7. The tutorial refuses to advance once the “Code” button is clicked. The
>> window opens, but the instruction pane stays where it was. Whoops, had to
>> first click on the footer control.
>> 
>> 8. Last card: It says “Open the property Inspector” . The dropdown menu
>> shows “Card Inspector”
>> 
>> 9. Setting up the navigation bar, the tutorial states to put in items as
>> “Calculator,Chart,Services”. But, each time a new item is added, a separate
>> box is created for the entry.
>> 
>> ———————————————————————————————————
>> 
>> I hope this helps the dev team.
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>> prothero at earthednet.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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