Control? Object?

Richmond richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Sun Jun 19 10:56:27 EDT 2016


Or, put it another way:

Maybe I'm just grasping for a consistent way to talk about things in 
Livecode
to young children . . ..

Richmond.

On 19.06.2016 17:47, Richmond wrote:
> "My goal" is to get young children interested in programming 
> computers, and so that those
> who have more than a passing interest generated by the classes can 
> continue by themselves.
>
> There are 3 things that have to be considered in "my goal":
>
> 1. Those kids who continue rely fairly heavily on what they find in 
> the Dictionary (which can be confusing).
>
> 2. Those kids are neither native speakers of English (nor, frankly, 
> does Bulgarian contain obvious cognates as do languages such as 
> Vlaams, Nederlaans, Frisian, Platt-Deutsch or Doric Scots), nor is 
> their standard of English at anywhere near a near-native like competence.
>
> 3. While, with Primary-level children, an element of simplification 
> has to take place, I have no
> desire to dumb-down things to such an extent that those children who 
> wish to to extend their skills
> with Livecode (or other programming languages) are unable to owning to 
> a mis-match between the way I have presented Livecode and what they 
> find "out in the wild".
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 19.06.2016 17:32, Mark Schonewille wrote:
>> If your goal is to teach computer science, you really should stop 
>> calling controls objects, but if your goal is to teach LiveCode, 
>> perhaps it would be easier for them to use the word object for now.
>>
>> -- 
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Mark Schonewille
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>> Op 19 jun. 2016 om 16:28 heeft Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com> 
>> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>> So:
>>>
>>> Should I stop using the word 'Object' for Buttons, Fields and so on 
>>> while
>>> teaching children, and make sure I refer to all of those things as 
>>> 'Controls'; even if only
>>> for the simple reason that the menus keep referring to 'Controls'?
>>>
>>> Richmond.
>>>
>>> On 19.06.2016 10:19, Richmond wrote:
>>>> I am currently teaching some children Livecode programming and ran 
>>>> into some difficulty
>>>> on Friday when a child asked me why the menus were full of the word 
>>>> "Control"
>>>> when I had been talking about "Objects".
>>>>
>>>> Well?
>>>>
>>>> How about changing every use of the word "Control" to "Object"?
>>>>
>>>> Enhancement Request 17879
>>>>
>>>> Richmond.
>>>
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