[fan boy] Has the "founders" on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?

JB sundown at pacifier.com
Sat Jul 11 09:19:42 CEST 2015


I was an electrical contractor and did all of that
by myself too.  People say they want work but
it was impossible for me to find someone who
I could depend on.  They think one job can be
a career.  It would take me longer to teach a
new person in the industry than it would to do
the job myself.  A large contractor has the money
and workers to weed them out and keep good
workers.

I have been programming by myself since the Vic
20, commodore 64 and Apple //e.

I would not know how to run team.  That speaks
very highly of Kevin Miller.

John Balgenorth


On Jul 11, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Scott Morrow <scott at elementarysoftware.com> wrote:

> That’s the same boat that most of us are in, I think. One person driving the entire operation. I’m always interested in how a multi-person LiveCode team would operate. Actually, I’m even more interested in how other individuals operate. Most of us work without being able to observe the workflow of our peers (Hence the recent string of posts on "Best way to check if a Field is a label?”) Which is really a sort of best practice conversation.
> 
>> Scott Morrow
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:49 PM, JB <sundown at pacifier.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am the team!  The program is
>> 80 to 90 percent done and do
>> not need anyone else at this
>> point.
>> 
>> John Balgenorth
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Scott Morrow <scott at elementarysoftware.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello John,
>>> Just out of curiosity, if you have a “Forever" Enterprise license then are you interested in the Indy license for other members of a team?
>>> --
>>> Scott Morrow
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:10 PM, JB <sundown at pacifier.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> They have made a lot of changes.  My Enterprise license
>>>> is Forever.
>>>> 
>>>> I am glad to hear you have the correct amount of space
>>>> and I hope everyone else does too.  I am not using any
>>>> of my space.  I also have a large amount of space with my
>>>> internet provider that I am not using.  Anytime I want I can
>>>> use all the space i need for free.  The Indy offer does not
>>>> interest me because I have reason to believe the program
>>>> I am going to sell will exceed the Indy limits.  That is why I
>>>> said I am more interested in the business license.  I am
>>>> developing that program with Revolution so all of my work
>>>> falls within my Enterprise license.  Recently there were post
>>>> about developing commercial products without a commercial
>>>> license.  What ever the rules are I am legally writing my code.
>>>> 
>>>> John Balgenorth
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Scott Morrow <scott at elementarysoftware.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If I had paid ahead for an enterprise license many years into the future and then the company went open source and licensing schemes changed and different products became available and I still continued to get a commercial license for everything, then I would tend to trust the Indy offer. And hey, that’s exactly what has happened!  And my On-Rev Founders account shows me allocated 97.66 GB.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Scott Morrow
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, JB <sundown at pacifier.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No Richard,  it means if I eat kittens I like
>>>>>> to eat pissy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I ddi not start this conversation about the
>>>>>> size limits being changed.  I stated that I
>>>>>> am a on-rev founder and that I am not at
>>>>>> this time using any of the space allocated
>>>>>> to me.  I did not check the space so I said
>>>>>> IF they changed the space and made it lower
>>>>>> then I personally have no reason to believe
>>>>>> the Indie license with its forever price will be
>>>>>> forever.  Yes I received that from LIveCode
>>>>>> and any lifetime agreements that are not to
>>>>>> be honored for your lifetime make me think
>>>>>> a Forever agreement will not last either.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I said IF because I do not know for sure and I
>>>>>> gave them a small benefit of the doubt.  But it
>>>>>> sounded to me like the space was lowered and
>>>>>> if I remember correctly they talked about doing
>>>>>> that in the past so it made me think they actually
>>>>>> did lower it but I do not know so it remains IF.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I see you failed to provide evidence to prove it
>>>>>> one way off another and yet attacked me for
>>>>>> saying IF they lowered the space.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John Balgenorth
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> JB wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am not using any space but I have no reason to
>>>>>>>> trust the Indie License forever price if forever has
>>>>>>>> a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Using "if" like that is really cool, as it allows us to say things without being accountable to them.  Let me try:  "If JB eats kittens, surely we have no reason to trust him with any pets." Yep, good fun.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Did you actually get a notice from the LiveCode team in which they've attempted to unilaterally alter some contractual agreement with you, or are you just making stuff up?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Richard Gaskin
>>>>>>> Fourth World Systems
>>>>>>> Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> Ambassador at FourthWorld.com        http://www.FourthWorld.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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