iPhone kiosk

Rick Harrison harrison at all-auctions.com
Mon Aug 25 16:05:56 EDT 2014 

Hi Richard,

Yes, I understand the 120fps thing but some marketing people were
touting 120fps as being the best for totally unnoticeable flicker especially
for 3D type application viewing etc.  It’s overkill for the human eye
under most circumstances.

Since your buyers will know that it is an iPhone with a one trick app
that you are providing, it really doesn’t make any sense to have the
device jailbroken.  Give them all of the functionality of the device and
just tell them which app to run.  You avoid all of the pitfalls of jailbreaking
the phones and for updating the app.  (No point to not allowing users
to use the other functions of the iPhone that they paid good money for.)

Without knowing more about your project to understand why you believe
that your device is going to earn the owner lots of extra cash, I really
can’t give anymore suggestions.

Hope the discussion was helpful to you guys in some way.

Good luck!

Rick


On Aug 25, 2014, at 3:30 PM, Richard Miller <Wow at together.net> wrote:

> The slo-mo mode of the phone works really well. If you want to see regular playback of a video, you can record at 30 fps. There is no point in recording at 120 fps to see regular playback, as it will look identical to a recording made at 30 fps. The only reason to record at 120 fps is to see slow motion playback.
> 
> A $1000 annual cost for our device is a small fraction of what it earns the owner of the device.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Rick Harrison <harrison at all-auctions.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> So, the person you sell your device to will have to
>> sign up for the Verizon/AT&T phone contract which
>> will reveal the fact that there is indeed an Apple iPhone
>> involved in the product?  (Isn’t the 2 year contract about $2,000 total?)
>> 
>> If the product is not concealing the iPhone, then again, why would I
>> as a user want such a high end price wise one trick pony iPhone device?
>> 
>> Is the playback of the Slo-Mo at 30fps then since it is billed as being at 1/4 speed playback?
>> Not having said device in my possession this is a somewhat interesting feature.
>> (I’m curious as to why Apple doesn’t allow normal video recording at 120fps as an option.)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Richard Miller <wow at together.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rick,
>>> 
>>> https://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/camera/
>>> 
>>> I own it and use the 120 fps slo-mo feature regularly.
>>> 
>>> This is not a contract-free arrangement. It's a conventional purchase of an iPhone from Verizon with monthly payments.
>>> 
>>> There's no attempt to conceal the phone.
>>> 
>>> Why would Apple care what we do with the phone? We're not advertising any aspect of the business as an "Apple-driven product'.
>>> 
>>> No problem with you playing Devil's advocate :)  I appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> Our business model is not price-sensitive. It is quality-sensitive.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/25/14, 2:02 PM, Rick Harrison wrote:
>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/specs/
>>>> 
>>>> I only see 30fps recording and 60fps for playback for this device.  (iPhone 5s.)
>>>> Where are you getting 120fps technical information for this?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here’s the 5th Generation iPod Touch specs too.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.apple.com/ipod-touch/specs.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So as I understand things now, you are hoping to
>>>> use a contract free iPhone 5s strictly for the video
>>>> camera and video display capabilities so that you
>>>> can make it the center of some other hardware
>>>> type device (perhaps a sports helmet camera or
>>>> something similar.) Base price just for the iPhone
>>>> $649. (Before any markup by you.) You will also
>>>> be trying to conceal the fact that the iPhone is the
>>>> centerpiece technology for the device.
>>>> 
>>>> Someone on the internet will probably do a take apart
>>>> of your device and when they publish the fact that
>>>> the iPhone is the center piece of the device, Apple, Inc.
>>>> will probably set it’s legal department loose on you
>>>> and tell you to at least seize and desist your
>>>> operations or the manufacture of your device.
>>>> (They will spout some licensing issue no doubt.)
>>>> 
>>>> (Please understand I’m trying to play Devil’s Advocate
>>>> here to save you the potential legal hassles in advance.)
>>>> 
>>>> It would probably be cheaper for you to just build your
>>>> device from scratch as a prototype and then take it
>>>> to a manufacturer to actually put the device together.
>>>> (You avoid all the trouble with Apple, Inc. that way.)
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this is somewhat helpful to you.
>>>> 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Richard Miller <wow at together.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is used in a kiosk. The user never sees the phone and doesn't even know the kiosk is powered by it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I need the 120 fps only available in the 5s.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/25/14, 12:55 PM, Rick Harrison wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The iPod Touch 5th Generation and earlier down to I believe 3rd generation
>>>>>> all have cameras and video capability.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why would I as a user want a one trick pony for all of that money
>>>>>> for a new device when a simple app that would run under iOS would
>>>>>> be sufficient? (Especially if I already own said iDevice.) You are also
>>>>>> asking people to trust “Jailbroken” technology with your app along with
>>>>>> the possible security holes as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think you may be shooting yourself in the marketing foot with the route
>>>>>> you are trying to go.  It is certainly a more expensive route from a
>>>>>> developmental standpoint too.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just my 2 cents.  I hope it helps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Richard Miller <wow at together.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Need the iPhone 5s camera.
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