Helping newcomers anticipate that standalones can't save to themselves

Charles E Buchwald charles at buchwald.ca
Fri Aug 15 10:45:59 EDT 2014


Yes, I like the idea of a "test" mode. I prefer that my experience in the development environment match the final user experience as closely as possible. 

I can imagine linking this test mode to what are now the View > Look and Feel > Emulated... menu items. And of course it would be great to have those Look and Feel menu items include iOS and Android... and updated from Mac OS Classic to OS X, and Windows 95 to something more current.


On 15 Aug 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ludovic THEBAULT <ludovic.thebault at laposte.net> wrote:

> 
> Le 15 août 2014 à 16:13, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com> a écrit :
> 
>> One of the most frequent frustrations new users have with LiveCode is the moment they realize the standalone they've built can't save changes to its stacks.
>> 
>> Often this happens very late in the process, just after building the standalone to test out the work they've been doing, and suddenly everything that worked so well in the IDE stops working, with no readily discernible cause.
>> 
>> So they come into the forums or this list, and folks mention everything from refactoring their work to use an anchor window (or "splash" screen) pattern, or completely rewrite everything to use an external text file or database or what have you.
>> 
>> The LiveCode User Guide's section on building standalones includes a bold purple callout box explaining this (p 299), but it's a testament to the usability of LiveCode that apparently a great many people can use it productively for many weeks without ever cracking the User Guide.
>> 
>> Clearly something more is needed.  What should that be?
>> 
>> Putting a note in the Standalone Builder might help, but if they've gotten that far it's too late, they probably have to start rewriting things.
>> 
>> How can we help users anticipate IN ADVANCE that no OS will allow their executable to write to itself, so they can write useful things from the very start
> 
> Hello,
> 
> What about a « test » mode that simulate the standalone comportment ?
> 
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