Standalones and Linux
andrew at ctech.me
Fri Nov 15 15:41:01 CET 2013
I'm not sure about the default buttons. I don't think I put them on the
stack like that.
lookAndFeel was the property I was looking for! I couldn't remember what it
was called, I just kept trying to search "motif" in the dictionary and
online and couldn't find what it was.
As far as linux mint, I love it and prefer cinnamon for my personal use,
but I am trying to run these as thin clients for a timeclock and my company
outsources their server management/network management to another company.
They won't support anything but ubuntu 12.04. I think I'll just go through
and see what I can do about just making a specific linux version of that
Thanks for the info Richard,
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Richard Gaskin
<ambassador at fourthworld.com>wrote:
> Andrew Kluthe wrote:
> > On the system with a fresh 12.04 lts installation the fonts are huge
> > and the colors are very offputting.
> > On linux mint running cinnamon, things seem to be running nicely,
> > but with stock ubuntu 12.04 lts the colors are awful. On windows
> > I recall there is a way to set the style of the theming to something
> > very basic and not use the new windows 7 or eight themes. Is there
> > not something similar on linux that will let me just turn the
> > themeing off without having to in and change so much of my program.
> > Link to a Screenshot is below.
> > http://oi44.tinypic.com/2wq9349.jpg -- Ubuntu 12.04
> That's pretty weird: on Windows the "Add a Task" buttons are not hilited,
> but in Ubuntu both of them have the orange hilite color as their background
> color. Do you perhaps have the default property of those button set to
> true? If so, from an interaction standpoint is that what you really want?
> Having more than one default button can confuse users.
> As for fonts, if you never set the textFont of textSize of your controls
> then all your stacks will take on the engine defaults, but you can set
> those at the stack level and all controls in the stack will inherit those
> settings. I've been doing that for Mac and Win apps in a preOpenStack
> handler for years so I can get the appropriate font for each OS, and in
> recent years have added another case to handle Linux as well.
> Theming can be turned off entirely by changing the lookAndFeel global
> property from its default of "Appearance Manager" (a strange choice of a
> Mac-specific string that actually affects all platforms) to any of the
> emulated appearances the engine supports: "Macintosh" (which emulates the
> Classic gray-scale look from OS 8.5), "Windows 95" (which looks as dated as
> it sounds) or "Motif" (even more dated; relatively few people using
> computers today have ever seen Motif in action).
> I'd just set the textSize at the stack level.
> Richmond wrote:
> > Stock Ubuntu is fairly awful aesthetically; that's why I run XFCE
> > with the Shiki-Wise theme.
> That's one of the perennial mysteries of the Linux community, and also one
> of Linux' greatest strengths:
> The mystery is that many people choose distros they don't like, while
> there are literally hundreds to choose from (have you considered simply
> using Mint?).
> The strength is that in addition to the hundreds of distros there are also
> dozens of window managers and thousands of other mods, so everyone can have
> exactly what they most prefer.
> Personally, count me among the millions who rather like the Ubuntu look
> and feel, but there's no disputing taste so enjoy the unique opportunity
> Linux offers in allowing everyone to set up their system however they like.
> Richard Gaskin
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