Card Names

[Peter Haworth]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Scott Rossi <scott at tactilemedia.com> wrote:

> IMO, I don't think it's a good idea to name things using "id xyz" since
> that's a specific way to refer to objects.  In theory you could name a
> card "card id 4001" while its id is 1004, but that seems like a recipe for
> confusion.  Just like it's not a good idea to name a control using only a
> number because it's possible for scripts to get confused, i.e. button "7".
>

I'd definitely agree with that, which it all the more strange that the IDE
does it.


> In any event, watch what happens if you delete the name of an object that
> was previously named -- it shows up in the inspector as "button id 1004"
> or similar.  The card referencing behavior is consistent with objects: if
> a control has no name, refer to it by its id.
>

Interesting.  I've never deleted the name of a control (at least knowingly)
so have never seen that behavior.  It's not quite the same as cards since
newly created controls do get a real name assigned to them like "button" or
"field".  Despite the consistency aspect, I still think it's strange
behavior.

No problem referring to a card by it's ID when it has no name - the trick
is how to figure out that it has no name since there is nothing to stop
someone naming a card in a way that makes it look like the
default-but-non-existent name.  I just switched over to using card IDs
instead of names. This is in my lcStackBrowser plugin so I have no control
over how someone names their objects.



>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX Design
>
>
>
>
> On 9/27/12 4:45 PM, "Peter Haworth" <pete at lcsql.com> wrote:
>
> >Yes, that's my conclusion too.  As you say, it's easy to find another way
> >to refer to the card.  It's just very puzzling why the IDE wouldn't just
> >set the name property to "card ID 1002" when the card is created instead
> >of
> >showing incorrect information in the App Browser.
> >Pete
> >lcSQL Software <http://www.lcsql.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Scott Rossi <scott at tactilemedia.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I think the name is shown for reference, in lieu of an assigned name.
> >> You need to refer to the card like you do an object:
> >>
> >>  put the ID of card ID 1002 of stack "xyz"
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Scott Rossi
> >> Creative Director
> >> Tactile Media, UX Design
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/27/12 3:25 PM, "Peter Haworth" <pete at lcsql.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >It would appear that a card shown in the App Browser with a name like
> >> >"card
> >> >id 1002" (in other words, the default name when the card was created)
> >> >doesn't really have that name, or maybe any name at all.
> >> >
> >> >I get a runtime error when I try to refer to a card like that by name,
> >> >e.g.
> >> >card "card id 1002" of stack "xyz" and in the message box:
> >> >
> >> >put the ID of card "card ID 1002" of stack "xyz"
> >> >
> >> >... returns an error "can't find card", even though I can see it in the
> >> >App
> >> >Browser
> >> >
> >> >If I rename the card, everything works OK.
> >> >
> >> >This seems like pretty strange behavior so wondering if anyone else
> >>sees
> >> >it.
> >> >
> >> >LC 5.5.0, OSX 10.7.4
> >> >
> >> >Pete
> >> >lcSQL Software <http://www.lcsql.com>
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