[OT] EULA and legality

[Peter Haworth]

It's unclear to me why the fact that I buy a license to use software versus
owning the actual software itself has any effect on what I choose to do
with it.  Either way, I pay money to Apple to be able to use it.  That's a
different issue than what the EULA says regarding not using it on non-Apple
hardware of course but interesting nevertheless.

I tewnd to agree with Richard that the reaosn Apple's lawyers are not
issuing cease-and-desist orders is becaue they are concerned they may lose
a court battle.  As long as outfits like Quo break the EULA (and good lucj
to them) without riposte from Apple, I have no qualms about doing it for my
own personal use.

It's clear from the whole Apple/Samsung mess that Apple will only react
when they think it's affecting their business and, in the smartrphone
market, that's certainly the case.  Personally, I think the whole
patent/intellectual property ownership process is broken.  Being able to
patent a shape is ridiculous, as are a huge number of the patents that are
being issued these days, not just to Apple.

Pete
lcSQL Software <http://www.lcsql.com>



On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Lynn Fredricks <
lfredricks at proactive-intl.com> wrote:

> That old EULA means that you license the materials that are ON the disk,
> not
> that Apple is licensing the disk itself to you. License you a disk? They'd
> probably make you take out an insurance policy on it if you did ;-)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lynn Fredricks
> President
> Paradigma Software
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com
> > [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Kay C Lan
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:38 PM
> > To: How to use LiveCode
> > Subject: Re: [OT] EULA and legality
> >
> > Good point Mark.
> >
> > Looking at my Snow Leopard EULA (as it differs from current
> > EULAs) it says:
> >
> > 1 General. The software... are licensed, not sold, to you...
> > You own the media on which the Apple Software is recorded...
> >
> > So I guess Richmond you are free to use the DVD for lighting
> > a fire, throwing at the cat, whilst either in the bath or
> > standing on your head ;-)
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Mark Wieder
> > <mwieder at ahsoftware.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Richmond-
> > >
> > > Friday, September 7, 2012, 11:55:01 AM, you wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am running software I own
> > >
> > > Really?
> > > Didn't actually read that EULA, did you?
> > >
> > > "1. General. The Apple software, tools, utilities, sample
> > or example
> > > code, documentation, interfaces, content, data, and other materials
> > > accompanying this License, whether on disk, print or electronic
> > > documentation, in read only memory, or any other media or
> > in any other
> > > form, (collectively, the "Developer Software") are
> > licensed, not sold,
> > > to you by Apple Inc. ("Apple") for use only under the terms of this
> > > License."
> > >
> > > --
> > > -Mark Wieder
> > >  mwieder at ahsoftware.net
> > >
> > >
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