The Owner of a background group

[dunbarx at aol.com]

Bob.


It seems more natural to me that the owner is the current card. It makes the message hierarchy consistent.


The "progenitor" could be a property as you suggest, but since this is not native, just set a custom property of the group to the id of the card that gave it birth. You then get everything you could ask for.



Craig


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Sneidar <bobs at twft.com>
To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 20, 2012 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: The Owner of a background group


Never mind works the same either way. Frankly, I would like the owner to return 
the card it was originally on. It seems confusing to me that the owner would 
change when the active card changes. Doesn't seem intuitive. I suppose however, 
this might allow for the deletion of the "owner" card without deleting the group 
that is placed on multiple cards. 

I thought it might be related to behaviors but nada. I cannot make it work where 
the owner is the first card the group was placed on/created on. 

Bob


On Aug 20, 2012, at 2:59 PM, DunbarX at aol.com wrote:

> Bob.
> 
> 
> I am intrigued.
> 
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Sneidar <bobs at twft.com>
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Sent: Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:53 pm
> Subject: Re: The Owner of a background group
> 
> 
> Behave as background on?
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
> 
>> Hi Craig,
>> Interesting, I wonder what's different in my situation.  It's not my stack
>> that exhibits this behavior so hard to dissect it.  Maybe it's some other
>> setting of the group that is causing the behavior.
>> 
>> I used the message box to check this out:
>> 
>> put the long ID of the owner of GroupA of Card2 of stack xyz
>> 
>> That returned a long ID which included the ID of Card1, not Card2.  Same
>> thing if I asked for the owner of a control within GroupA
>> 
>> Very weird.
>> 
>> OSX 1.7, LC 5.5.1
>> 
>> Pete
>> lcSQL Software <http://www.lcsql.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:38 PM, <dunbarx at aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Peter.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't see this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I made a card and a background group, I made a background field that, on
>>> opencard, would show the owner of the group. I made a few new cards.
>>> Navigating, the owner of the group is the current card, not the first card
>>> where all the authoring took place. Using the "place" command works the
>>> same as "command-N" in placing the group onto downstream cards.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mac OS10.5, LC 5.5
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig Newman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Peter Haworth <pete at lcsql.com>
>>> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
>>> Sent: Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:19 pm
>>> Subject: The Owner of a background group
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It appears that requesting the owner of a background group does not always
>>> return the card on which the group exists.  I think it returns the card on
>>> which the group was initially placed.
>>> 
>>> For example, if groupA is a background group initially placed on Card1,
>>> then placed on card2 and I ask for the owner of groupA on Card2, I get
>>> Card1.
>>> 
>>> Given that I'm not misunderstanding this, how can I discover which card a
>>> specific instance of a background group is on?
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> lcSQL Software <http://www.lcsql.com>
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