[OT] How long before..

[-=>JB<=-]

No, I cannot explain it at this time.

-=>JB<=-


On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Richmond wrote:

> On 08/01/2012 05:20 PM, -=>JB<=- wrote:
>> And I was being serious about mood swings and AI.
> 
> Ahah. Well, in that case can you explain how mood swings can be reduced to a set of mathematical
> equations?
> 
>> 
>> -=>JB<=-
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Richmond wrote:
>> 
>>> On 08/01/2012 05:15 PM, -=>JB<=- wrote:
>>>> I didn't watch that much Star Trek but I think Spock would disagree
>>>> with your theory about mood swings and AI.
>>> Oddly enough, I was being serious about AI, not making goofy remarks to be analysed by characters from a TV series.
>>> 
>>>> -=>JB<=-
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Richmond wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 08/01/2012 04:31 PM, -=>JB<=- wrote:
>>>>>> The AI we have had in the past is primitive and not even close to the AI
>>>>>> I am talking about.  i have not seen anything fantastic come from the old
>>>>>> so called AI because it was artificial in even claiming it to be AI.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Artificial Intelligence if we mean something that can learn from input and act on it does exist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Artificial Intelligence if we mean a machine that behaves like a Bonobo or a Human does not exist
>>>>> and is unlikely to as that presupposes Bonobos and Humans are entirely mechanistic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Artificial Intelligence can be something as simple as a computer program that learns how an end-user uses it and reshapes its behaviour to echo the end-user's preferences. I(f that is the case, then the Mozilla Firefox browser that "lives" in part of my Linux box may be said to possess some sort of AI.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However my cat (who is neither a computer program, nor interacts with computers), and I (???)
>>>>> both possess a quite different sort of intelligence . . .
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is why the Russell-Carnap theory that everything could be boiled down to a set of mathematical equations has failed so miserably.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, while Artificial Intelligence can be said to exist, and be said to be capable of development, to
>>>>> equate AI with animal intelligence might lead to ridiculous and unreasonable expectations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Animals have feelings, and feelings cannot be mathematically quantified yet animals act upon them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I see a computer and/or program that suffers from mood swings I will admit I was wrong!
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know whether anybody has sat down and mapped out how AI is expected to develop
>>>>> over the next dozen years or so. This might prove useful so that a lot of people don't waste
>>>>> an awful lot of time trying to get something to behave in a way it is congenitally incapable of,
>>>>> and stop the sort of "my computer behaves like my girlfriend" sort of expectations that seem to
>>>>> be current.
>>>>> 
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