[OT] How long before..

Richmond richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Wed Aug 1 10:14:26 EDT 2012


On 08/01/2012 05:15 PM, -=>JB<=- wrote:
> I didn't watch that much Star Trek but I think Spock would disagree
> with your theory about mood swings and AI.

Oddly enough, I was being serious about AI, not making goofy remarks to 
be analysed by characters from a TV series.

>
> -=>JB<=-
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Richmond wrote:
>
>> On 08/01/2012 04:31 PM, -=>JB<=- wrote:
>>> The AI we have had in the past is primitive and not even close to the AI
>>> I am talking about.  i have not seen anything fantastic come from the old
>>> so called AI because it was artificial in even claiming it to be AI.
>>>
>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Artificial Intelligence if we mean something that can learn from input and act on it does exist.
>>
>> Artificial Intelligence if we mean a machine that behaves like a Bonobo or a Human does not exist
>> and is unlikely to as that presupposes Bonobos and Humans are entirely mechanistic.
>>
>> Artificial Intelligence can be something as simple as a computer program that learns how an end-user uses it and reshapes its behaviour to echo the end-user's preferences. I(f that is the case, then the Mozilla Firefox browser that "lives" in part of my Linux box may be said to possess some sort of AI.
>>
>> However my cat (who is neither a computer program, nor interacts with computers), and I (???)
>> both possess a quite different sort of intelligence . . .
>>
>> This is why the Russell-Carnap theory that everything could be boiled down to a set of mathematical equations has failed so miserably.
>>
>> So, while Artificial Intelligence can be said to exist, and be said to be capable of development, to
>> equate AI with animal intelligence might lead to ridiculous and unreasonable expectations.
>>
>> Animals have feelings, and feelings cannot be mathematically quantified yet animals act upon them.
>>
>> When I see a computer and/or program that suffers from mood swings I will admit I was wrong!
>>
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>> I don't know whether anybody has sat down and mapped out how AI is expected to develop
>> over the next dozen years or so. This might prove useful so that a lot of people don't waste
>> an awful lot of time trying to get something to behave in a way it is congenitally incapable of,
>> and stop the sort of "my computer behaves like my girlfriend" sort of expectations that seem to
>> be current.
>>
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