Realbasic on the web without plugins
admin at mfelkerco.com
Fri Sep 23 14:49:07 EDT 2011
I must agree. If I want to create web forms I can use a zillion tools. No, I want to create graphically rich apps that are multimedia driven or games. It's great that I can use live code for more mundane database programming as well, but I need the more complex stuff to work on mobile devices and the web.
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On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com> wrote:
> Pete wrote:
>> I guess that's what's been in my mind throughout this thread - we're all
>> pointing out how difficult it is to do this but RB have done it. I know
>> nothing about other limitations of RB vs LC but it appears they have taken
>> the lead in this one area.
> In terms of perception, unquestionably.
> But in terms of actually moving projects to the web, it would require that one of us here use it to determine the degree of flexibility it provides.
> The video on the page linked to in the OP showed a relatively simple example, a master-detail form.
> How many of us *haven't* done that? Yes, that sort of thing can definitely be generalized easily.
> Or consider Jim Hurley's wonderful rainbow refraction stack. Or Richard Herz' Reactor Lab? Or Glenn Fisher's RobinHood?
> How much gets done on the server, and how much is done in the browser?
> To what degree can we fulfill expectations of "putting LiveCode stacks on the Web" if all that happens is that the server reproduces static layouts as minimally-interactive pages?
> Heck, how do you write a JS equivalent of LC's Geometry Manager to reposition things when the window gets resized? And how to do translate the thousands of resizeStack handlers we've all written?
> Doable, but not trivial. Very, very expensive, and responding to resize events is just a small corner of the breadth of tasks such a translation system would need to address.
> Confining the range of interactions that can take place in pages generated by such a system is easily doable by anyone with time and motivation using nothing more than the tools we have in our hands right now.
> But to reproduce the full range of user experiences we can build in LiveCode inside of a browser is not a trivial task.
> I could be wrong, but I'd be very surprised if that's what RB/Web attempts.
> Richard Gaskin
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