new iPhone 4s

Pete pete at
Wed Oct 5 02:12:23 EDT 2011

My wife and I just upgraded our phones (with Verizon).  We each had a Droid
Eris and I have to say they sucked.

I upgraded to an HTC Incredible and my wife got an iPhone 4.  I am extremely
happy with my Incredible - it is a huge advance over the Eris in every way.
I have had it for about a month now and have NEVER had to reboot it.

I'm interested in the comment about malware, lack of controls and poor
security.  Any more info available?  Because I'd like to be aware of
problems in those areas so I can take steps to prevent them.  I've already
installed an anti-virus app.  And let's not forget the hoo hah a couple of
months ago regarding the file of location info that Apple secretly collected
on the iphone

There are two huge advantages to the Incredible for me - Goggle Navigation
and being able to seamlessly and wirelessly sync my phone calendar and
address book with my Apple desktop out of the box.

My wife is equally happy with her iPhone.  I think it comes down to what
sort of user you are ( yes :"user", these are computers that happen to make
phone calls).

My wife is not a computer expert and like most Apple products, the iPhone is
very simple to set up and use for the simple, everyday stuff.  I have a
computer background and like to set up a phone the way I want it to be, not
the way the manufacturer thinks it should be.  Plus, no matter how good
Apple products are, I hate the business practices they have adopted over the
last couple of years.

Molly's Revenge <>

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Admin <admin at> wrote:

> Bill,
> I could not disagree more. My Iphone crashed constantly and
> had to be rebooted all the time. My wife's BRAND NEW itouch 4 - same
> thing.
> My HTC Evo - NEVER has a problem. Never. Great battery life
> with a nice large battery I purchased for it. Outstanding in every way.
> You are a FOOL if you do not support Android - it dwarfs Apple in sheer
> number of companies that support it. It won't be long before Androids
> far outnumber iphones - it's a numbers game and there are more of them
> and only one of Apple.
> Mike
> On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:54:39 -0700, Bill
> Vlahos wrote:
> > I haven't used an Android but the people at work who
> have personal ones say they like them but find that they are buggy and
> need to be restarted frequently. The ones that have them like them
> because they can tinker more with them but even they say we shouldn't
> support them. It reminds me of the people who want to build their own
> PCs.
> >
> > We don't support Android because of malware, lack of controls,
> and poor security model.
> >
> > I know people complain about no LTE on the
> iPhone but all the LTE phones have horrible battery life. I'll be more
> excited about LTE when it is more widely available. Right now it is
> pointless unless you live in one of the areas that have it.
> >
> > The
> iPhones prior to the 4 had minimally acceptable battery life but the 4s
> are very good. For people who want even more extended life there are
> very nice battery packs that the iPhones slip into. These add a
> surprisingly small amount of weight and size and are very comfortable. I
> don't use them because I find the battery life to be plenty for me.
> >
> >
> I think the defining features of the iPhone 4S are the improved
> performance and Siri voice features. If Siri just proves to be speech to
> text like Dragon Naturally Speaking or the feature on Android phones
> then it won't be a big deal at all. However, if it is more like the IBM
> Watson computer that won on Jeopardy then it will truly be
> revolutionary. I won't really be able to know until the 4S is out and I
> can try it.
> >
> > I think the 4S is a lot better than you describe.
> >
> >
> Bill Vlahos
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> > On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Chipp Walters
> wrote:
> >
> >> Apple iPhone 4s-- ugh. All psyched up about the iPhone 5,
> and Apple lays this turd. So disappointing. Jeez, didn't take them long
> to screw things up now that Jobs is gone. Now, I'm considering upgrading
> my iPhone 4 to Android. Anyone have experience with both and can offer
> advice? -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc.
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