User Interface Question

Pete pete at mollysrevenge.com
Sun Jul 31 12:47:04 EDT 2011


Thanks to all for the advice.  I've tried all the suggestions but I still
have the same problem.  The cursor changes to the hand correctly when I
hover over the datagrid.  If I move the mouse off the datagrid in any
direction except upwards, the cursor changes back to what it should be.  If
I move the mouse to any spot above the datagrid, the cursor stays as a hand
and stays that way no matter where I move the mouse.  It's as if the
mouseLeave event never happens for mouse movement in the upward direction
from the datagrid.

While on the subject, can anyone recommend a good source for cursor icons
(preferably free!)?

Thanks,

Pete
Molly's Revenge <http://www.mollysrevenge.com>




On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Peter Brigham MD <pmbrig at gmail.com> wrote:

> And it's much better not to lock the cursor and then change it. Locked
> cursors have a way of sticking if the handler to unlock the cursor somehow
> misses. instead, don't lock anything, just set the defaultcursor to hand,
> then set it to empty when done. I usually have this in my stack script:
>
> on mousemove
>   put the target into tTarg
>   if the name of the target contains "button" then
>      if the tool contains "browse" then
>         set the defaultcursor to hand
>      end if
>   else
>      set the defaultcursor to empty
>   end if
>   pass mouseMove
> end mousemove
>
> on mouseLeave
>   set the defaultcursor to empty
>   pass mouseLeave
> end mouseLeave
>
>
> -- Peter
>
> Peter M. Brigham
> pmbrig at gmail.com
> http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Jeff Massung wrote:
>
> > I never do mouse cursor changes in controls. I do all of them in the
> card.
> >
> > on mouseMove px,py
> >  if px,py is within the rect of ... then
> >    -- cursor A
> >  else if px,py is within the rect of ... then
> >    -- cursor B
> >  else
> >    -- put the cursor back to normal
> >  end if
> > end mouseMove
> >
> > This makes it *much* easier to control what's shown when.
> >
> > Jeff M.
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Pete <pete at mollysrevenge.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Jeff.  I'm trying to implement the cursor change and running into
> >> some weirdness.
> >>
> >> In the script of the datagrid, I have these two handlers:
> >>
> >>  *on* mouseEnter
> >>
> >>  *lock* cursor
> >>
> >>  *set* the cursor to hand
> >>
> >> *end* mouseEnter
> >>
> >>
> >> *on* mouseLeave
> >>
> >>  *unlock* cursor
> >>
> >> *end* mouseLeave
> >>
> >>
> >> This changes the cursor as expected and most of the time, it returns to
> the
> >> correct cursor when I move the mouse away from the datagrid.  However,
> if I
> >> move the cursor above the datagrid, the cursor stays as the hand and
> does
> >> not return to any other image no matter where I move the mouse to.
> >>
> >>
> >> This is the first time I've attempted to control the cursor so no doubt
> I'm
> >> doing something wrong!
> >>
> >>
> >> Pete
> >> Molly's Revenge <http://www.mollysrevenge.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Jeff Massung <massung at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> For dragging, I'd go with "handles" on the left side of the datagrid
> that
> >>> have hand icon when you hover over them. They've become pretty
> ubiquitous
> >>> on
> >>> webpages. For an example of what I mean:
> >>>
> >>> http://jqueryui.com/demos/sortable/
> >>>
> >>> As for a context menu, you be okay with just a tool-tip. People
> generally
> >>> try and right-click a lot for things they expect to be there.
> Otherwise,
> >>> again, go with something common to show that actions are available. For
> >>> example, and disclosure triangle on the far right of a UI widget is
> >>> typically clickable and will bring up a menu. Left-click will bring up
> >> your
> >>> context menu, and r-click anywhere will bring it up as well.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff M.
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Pete <pete at mollysrevenge.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Wondering if anyone has any thoughts on a couple of user interface
> >>>> questions.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm providing a popup contextual menu when the user right-clicks on a
> >>>> datagrid.  I'm also providing the ability to re-order rows in a
> >> datagrid
> >>> by
> >>>> dragging and dropping them.  The common thread between these two
> >>> functions
> >>>> is that there is no on-screen indication that they exist.  Popup menus
> >>> are
> >>>> invisible until they are invoked and drag and drop is equally
> invisible
> >>>> until someone initiates it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are there any common methods for indicating to users that features
> like
> >>>> this
> >>>> are available to them?
> >>>>
> >>>> Pete
> >>>> Molly's Revenge <http://www.mollysrevenge.com>
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