Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

[Richmond]

On 12/27/2011 10:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> Bernard Devlin wrote:
>
>> I was so appalled by the latest Ubuntu, I switched to Mint.  Ubuntu
>> had become as slow as using Windows Vista.
>
> Is that with 11.10 or 11.04?
>
> When I first tried 11.04 it was slow, and I wound up staying with 
> 10.10 until 11.10 came out.  But since I upgraded to 11.10 last month, 
> on my Core2 Duo laptop it runs very well.
>
> In terms of design, it's almost as big a departure from earlier 
> versions as OS X is from Mac OS 9.  And as with my Mac experience, the 
> transition was a bit jarring at first, and I initially complained 
> about not being as productive.  But with both OS X and Unity, the more 
> time I spend with the new system the more I like it.
>
> It seems a matter of taste, though.  I know more than a few Mac users 
> who still prefer the design of OS 9, and it seems there are quite a 
> few Ubuntu users who prefer 10 over 11.
>
> But unlike the Mac world, at least us Linux users can choose which 
> environment we want to work in. :)
>
>
>> No wonder Mint has taken off.  Whilst the main charts in the link below
>> are based on DistroWatch (arguably a sign of what cutting-edge linux
>> users are up to), the chart further down the page showing Google search
>> data indicates that the claim that Ubuntu is losing out to Mint has some
>> basis.
>>
>> http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/11/23/ubuntu-linux-losing-popularity-fast-new-unity-interface-to-blame/ 
>>
>
> Respectfully, DistroWatch stats aren't a good measure of general 
> interest, for the reasons I detailed in this post in the Ubuntu forum:
> <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11480329#post11480329>
>
> In that post I also include Alexa site rankings, which show many times 
> more interest in Ubuntu than Mint, similar to the Google stats in the 
> article you linked to which also shows Ubuntu ranking much higher than 
> Mint.
>
> Mint's a great system, but in terms of overall popularity the factor 
> that affects the Linux world the most is that the average person 
> doesn't think of operating systems as something they can choose, but 
> simply uses whatever came with their computer.
>
> In 2011 the number of OEMs shipping computers with Ubuntu preinstalled 
> continued to grow.  In addition to Dell, Asus, and others, there are 
> Linux-exclusive vendors like System 76 which offer only Ubuntu.  Even 
> ZaReason, which offers Mint and others as options, has Ubuntu as their 
> default choice.  My friend Aviv who runs LinuCity here in SoCal offers 
> a few systems with Mint preinstalled, but most of his line is Ubuntu.
>
> Being Ubuntu-based, Mint provides a great option for those who want 
> most of what Ubuntu offers but with the more traditional UI.
>
> But the Gnome Project killed Gnome 2 for a reason, 

And what, pray tell, was that; that it was popular? and Linux people 
like putting their feet in their mouth - I wonder.

> and sooner or later we can expect most distros to be using either 
> Gnome 3/Shell or a variant like Unity.
>
> This transition from a Windows-like task bar to a Mac-like dock isn't 
> perfect in either the Gnome Shell or Unity implementations, but I feel 
> such evolution is inevitable for the continued growth of the platform.
>
> And best of all, it's Linux:  we have plenty of choices to use any 
> distro, desktop environment, and tweaks we want to get exactly what we 
> most prefer.
>
> I used to lament the number of distros out there, but the more I spend 
> time with the Linux community the more I've come to appreciate the 
> strengths of such diversity.
>
>
> PS: If anyone here is going to SCaLE 10x next month let's meet up 
> there - I'll be there all three days:
> <http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale10x>
>
> -- 
>  Richard Gaskin
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