Check out Jerry's new videos

Sat May 8 07:52:32 EDT 2010

On May 8, 2010, at 2:30 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
> OK, just to be clear, is this how it is?

My attempt to clarify things by making a series of statements that  
should give some flow to a complicated subject... web hosting for the  
rest of us.
Corrections welcome :-)

With an On-Rev account you have a password protected area that you  
control as admin.  This is a hosted account.
Using a control panel web page at On-Rev, you can setup, improve, or  
destroy your ability to use this account.

Jerry's new venture, Rodeo, allows a server to perform complex tasks  
and interact with a Safari browser running on the iPad. Basically, a  
web server does not care which device has contacted it with  
instructions and/or data.  ( I have no affiliation with Rodeo or  
inside knowledge )

Jerry's new venture allows a programmer who knows Rev text and data  
handling to accept data and return info that will display properly in  
Safari.  Knowledge of html-php-css languages are not required since  
his library will take care of writing 'all that weird stuff' and  
delivering it correctly.  The caution will be that the returned  
display code will likely not be cross-browser or cross-platform,  
especially not be backward-compatible.  The goal is probably to be  
finely tuned to the iPad version of Safari, which (knowing Apple) will  
likely be a moving target.  It is possible to make the cloud-app  
function with any browser, not just the iPad, but I have no way of  
knowing if Rodeo will ever add this.

----- On-Rev basics ---------------
Irev
Any text files you upload that have the correct code lines will be  
read by the irev engine and executed, no matter how the text files  
were edited and uploaded.

How do you get irev code, irev scripts,  and php to execute?
Use your browser or scripting environment of choice to access an url,  
such as:
     http://jimaultAccount.on-rev.com/say-hello-with-date.irev
this runs the script + all of its function calls to other scripts,  
then returns data.
If the data is to be displayed by a browser, then all the <head><body>  
tags are included in the output.

If the data is merely the payload to be returned to a program, then it  
is formatted to match the task.
     http://jimaultAccount.on-rev.com/yahoo-weather-11-items-metric-system.irev
     http://jimaultAccount.on-rev.com/yahoo-weather-11-items-US-system.irev

PHP, any flavor of cgi - that produce html, javascript, css results to  
send back to a browser
These are all available to you on the On-Rev server, just as other  
hosting servers.  You do not ever have to write one irev script.

REV CGI, vs other cgi scripts that can be installed (such as perl)
You can install the Rev cgi 3.5 Linux engine on to your admin account,  
then upload scripts and stacks that call this engine.  Again, no irev  
scripting is needed.
(NOTE:  Andre Garzia has made an automatic installer for this -> your  
On-Rev account and the engine will be available from any folder/script  
you control, or from the outside world)
<?php> code   <?>  tells the server to execute PHP statements
<?rev> code  <?>  tells the server to execute IREV statements
The results of the code become part of the text string you are  
building that finally becomes the string you return to the browser.

Now a bonus:  You can write a Rev cgi that calls an irev script(s) to  
do processing, then that first cgi delivers the result to the user's  
browser.
You can write an irev script that calls a cgi(s) to do processing,  
then that first irev script delivers the result to the user's browser.
Of course, you can have multiple calls to and between irev scripts and  
cgi scripts.

The cgi scripts can run on any compatible hosting server, but the irev  
scripts must be executed using the On-Rev.com engine.
You can have a PHP script on hostgator call an irev script on your  
server.
You can have a Rev stack on your desktop that calls an irev script.
And now you can diagram many variations across different hosts that  
you own or sites you don't own.
An example is to get stock quotes and weather as part of your desktop  
app, then call an irev script to format the output or data structure.

The html-javascript-css-jquery code that you deliver from the server  
to the browser needs to be compatible with the specific browser the  
user has chosen.

If you use the Rev browser plugin, it will give the browser the  
capability of doing more than the browser knows how to do, such as  
display working stacks.  The result is that you are not constrained to  
using html-javascript-css-jquery, except to build the page that the  
Rev plugin will run within.

Jerry's tRex editor makes building stacks and scripts very easy.
By executing scripts on a server, the user does not have to download  
apps or stacks or revlets.
The usual browser cookies can store data locally, if the user allows  
this.

I hope this helps people get there head around the complex nature of  
web assets and the multiplexed jargon

Complex beyond measure, unless you have a multi-dimensional yardstick.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas