[OT] Another warped idea ?
richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Wed May 5 13:55:11 EDT 2010
On 05/05/2010 20:04, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
> Its not quite right, it does not let you install OSX just on Virtual Box
> running on a Mac. It lets you install, with all kinds of caveats, OSX on VB
> running on anything. I haven't tried, having no interest in running any
> Apple OS, but that is what its supposed to do.
Well, we all know, by now, your taste in OS; chacun a son goût!
From my point of view; should my PPC Macs go 'bang' one day, and RunRev not
sort out the Linux version the idea of running Mac OS X in Virtual Box
run RunRev for Mac is extremely appealing.
> When it comes to testing production software, like Rev, virtualization is a
> snare and a delusion.
That is why I moved from testing Windows standalones on Virtual PC to a
headless Pentium 3 running XP.
> But not when it comes to just running stuff as a
> user. The implication of the present case is, that a particular reference
> hardware configuration is becoming standardized, regardless of what physical
> hardware the machine is running. Its going to be harder and harder to keep
> OSX off non-Apple boxes for ordinary users.
> If you look at a package like Thininstall from VMWare, there are also real
> implications for developers who want to tie their app to one physical
Maybe I'm a bit thick, but what possible advantage could accrue from tying
an app to either one physical machine (well, if one wants to cheese-off
who have paid good money for your app but don't really want to lug their
monitor(s) in the car every time they pop up to the cottage in the
country, I suppose
it makes sense: think about it; 2 reasonable PCs now cost less than one
laptop, and they generally last longer) ?
I own a copy of Runrev Studio 4 for Mac, Win and Linux: down here in
Plovdiv, I have RunRev
installed on my G4 Mac, a Pentium 3 running XP and an HP 2,5 GHz Pentium
4 running Ubuntu
"whatever-the-stupid-animal-name-is-at-the-moment". When I go up to the
(Yes; you can all breath a sigh of relief; Richmond is buggering off for
4 days - no daft postings)
as I have a keyboard, mouse and monitor up there I just pop my G4
macMini (OS X 10.4.11) in
the car; with RunRev 4 on it - now, before the licensing chaps at RunRev
get all hot and sweaty
I should point out that I don't see any moral or legal problem with
that, because when I am using
licensed RunRev on my kiddy-box in Hrabrino (that's the name of the
village where our
villa is) I am NOT using any of my machines down in Plovdiv.
Now, were Runrev tied to a particular machine that would not be
possible, and I would have to take
to drugs or something because I couldn't get my Runrev fix on holiday .
. . :)
Thank You Runtime Revolution; Love and Squeezes from Richmond.
> You cannot any longer prevent an app from being made portable if
> its installable at all.
Oh dear, oh dear; if your app is worth anything at all it WILL be
pirated in one
way or another; but I am sure sales will bring in sufficient cash that,
are a "real so-and-so" you won't lose undue sleep over the fact.
Hey; the latest joke is that I have seen my FREE Devawriter on pirate
sites: what a laugh,
people thinking they are being very clever; pirating a free program:
good on them . . . :)
Frankly, I take the whole thing as a compliment.
I sure hope that happens to my "Pro" version; it probably is worth more
those silly awards I have on my website:
I mean, let's face it, as long as your piece of 'poo' isn't a trojan you
start getting these "award"
about 10 minutes BEFORE you release the blasted thing.
Why do I put the things on my website; err . . . because I'm as vain as
the next person, and just possibly
it will up the level of downloads.
> And in the case of a VM, you move it around, it travels with the same unique
> hardware identifiers, so even if you tie down your app to a hardware
> signature, you cannot actually stop proliferation of copies.
> When you think about it like this, the App Store and the tool restriction
> ceases to be such a crazy idea. No nicer, but a lot less crazy.
Yes; rather like 70 year copyright after you are dead and so forth. I
a modicum of protection (even thought the pirates will go on their merry way
regardless) while I am alive; after all, I did the work. But after I am
dead is ludicrous:
my children will inherit enough from me as it is, without them being
able to sponge
of my efforts even unto the 7th generation; they can earn their own
money, and make
their own creative decisions.
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