Scripting what should be a simple loop...

zryip theSlug zryip.theslug at
Sat Jul 10 13:38:20 EDT 2010

Hum, I understand now why I have not found your post funny (or not).
It's like a flashback.

2010/7/10 Richmond <richmondmathewson at>

> On 07/10/2010 12:52 PM, zryip theSlug wrote:
>> Richmond, I'm not sure to appreciated your humor.
>> However, with less talent and other circumstances, I had probably write
>> something similar somewhere in the net, so I forgive you for this time.
>> 2010/7/10 Richmond<richmondmathewson at>
>>> On 07/10/2010 11:49 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
>>>> David and Mark,
>>>> Yet, repeat for each rules. Whether using arrays is faster than using
>>>> regular variables depends on whether your repeat loop is written
>>>> smartly.
>>> Quite; but that looks a bit like circular logic.
>>> Everytime I have to write some sort of loop I get out the plastic cups
>>> and
>>> the beads
>>> and play with them on the floor (preferably with a cup of coffee and some
>>> music)
>>> until I find what I would term the most "economical" way of doing things.
>>> So; prior to writing anything "smartly" one has to work out the
>>> 'smartist'
>>> logic;
>>> if you are incredibly good at abstractions you can do that mentally; if
>>> not
>>> you
>>> can do it with a pencil and paper, or with cups and beads - whatever
>>> works
>>> for you. LEGO is also quite effective.
>>> Then; having worked out one's model; one has to represent it in code.
>>> If one's model has already been worked out (squares and arrows on paper,
>>> cups and beads on the floor, circles and lines on a blackboard) visually
>>> it
>>> is, generally, easier to track where things go wrong with one's code by
>>> comparing it with one's physical model.
>>> _______________________________________________
> That may appear a joke to you!
> HOWEVER: I do often play around with beads and cups on the floor; it really
> does help me with conceptualising what I am trying to do on a computer.
> About 35 years ago, a brilliant Maths master at my school taught us
> without benefit of a computer (our punch cards were sent to Imperial
> College in London
> where my cousin Stephen Mathewson:
> )
> organised things. As 13 year old who had never seen a computer, nor had a
> clue about logic
> his attempt at getting us to understand flow charts ('How to boil an egg'
> as far as I remember)
> was doomed to failure (perhaps because most of us couldn't boil an egg to
> save our lives).
> So, this brilliant man, helped us understand with plastic yoghurt pots and
> off-cuts of wood from
> the woodwork classroom.
> My only regret is that I have no way of knowing where the man we called
> "Bonehead Barker"
> is now, or, even, if he is still alive, so that I can send him a little
> something by way of a thank you
> for all the help he has given me.
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-Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8)

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