Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)
richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Wed Feb 3 01:44:57 CST 2010
On 03/02/2010 02:26, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> Peter Alcibiades wrote:
>> The way you do Debian is, you stick with Stable, just getting the
>> and occasional really major application updates, for around 2 years.
>> is done with
>> apt-get update
>> apt-get upgrade
> And that's why I use Ubuntu. :)
> In Ubuntu, you don't do anything - the OS checks for updates and
> prompts the user as needed, an experience very much like OS X.
> Mine notified me of updates just last night, and kindly reminded me
> that I was on battery power rather than AC, suggesting I might want to
> plug in because it would take a few minutes. It's that level of
> fit-and-finish, letting me ignore the details of the OS and focus
> instead on the apps I use within it, that has me enamored of the
> Ubuntu experience.
>> The idea some people advocate here, that Rev should somehow
>> standardize on
>> Ubuntu, or that the world should for that matter, is a
>> misunderstanding of
>> Linux, and its also just plain wrong about the standing of Ubuntu as a
> For myself, my only advocacy at this point is that Rev standalones
> work well under Ubuntu, and if they work well there they'll work well
> in most distros.
> But as for the Rev IDE product, I don't really care as much anymore.
> Developers will sort it out; if Rev used a Debian package it would be
> a little more convenient, but it's not at all difficult to put my Rev
> icons where I want them in my system myself even with just a Zip file
> as we have now.
> Your earlier post about distros changed my mind about the details of
> how Rev plays on Linux; you raised many good points, and indeed I have
> come to agree that it doesn't hurt to have any number of distros
> available for every taste.
> But I've been able to relax about the variety of distros only because
> one of those has done such an outstanding job of focusing on
> simplifying the newbie experience. I'm referring of course to Ubuntu.
> Yes, Ubuntu is not for everyone. There are plenty to choose from, so
> everyone can get the exact flavor they find most tasty. There are
> some truly mind-blowing packages out there - I think it's safe to say
> that some of the boldest experimental UI work around today is being
> done in Linux more than on Windows or OS X. With so many different
> flavors there's no need for all of them to play it safe, but the
> one-size-fits-all OSes don't have such a luxury, needing to cater to
> everyone with a single product.
> But please remember that one man's limitations is another man's
> freedom. For an experienced user like yourself Ubuntu's less frequent
> updates isn't helpful. But for newbies, updating every day is a
> hassle. And for developers, less frequent releases means the platform
> is less of a moving target.
> I used to be concerned that the unique value Linux brings to the table
> as the world's most mature and robust free OS would be hampered by
> distros catering only to initiates, those who've paid their dues with
> make files and shell commands and generally prefer what the average
> computer user might think of as a bit geeky.
> Since then, Ubuntu has emerged as a leader for folks who want to enjoy
> Linux but don't want to learn it. Sure, it's as Linux as any other,
> so if you want to dive into the deep end there's plenty of room to
> swim. But for the average computer user who just wants to get stuff
> done, Ubuntu's focus on the end-user experience makes it quite
> accommodating, requiring far less prerequisite knowledge to use it
> effectively than any other distro I've tried.
> So for myself, and others who make consumer software products, Ubuntu
> is a very appealing target. It's bringing the benefits of Linux to an
> audience who might otherwise remain just a bit too intimidated to try
> it, and that level of broad consumer adoption can only help the Linux
> world as a whole. Indeed, it's essential in order to fix Bug #1. :)
Bravo Richard, extremely well stated!
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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