any way to detect condition "connected to ISP but not internet"?

[Josh Mellicker]

On Jan 20, 2009, at 3:17 AM, Luis wrote:

> Hiya,
>
> This initially looks like a dynamic IP issue. When it happens, can  
> you ping (from the Terminal) www.google.com? This might also point  
> to DNS problems.

I will try this next time- perhaps the ping would not work but I can  
shell out to ping rather than using a Rev function and the app would  
not hang.

Thanks for the tip!


>
>
> What have the cable company said about it?

They just say "sorry, check again in a few hours" :-o


>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luis.
>
>
> On 20 Jan 2009, at 03:11, Josh Mellicker wrote:
>
>> I just thought I'd ask the many networking gurus here:
>>
>> It seems easy with Revolution to check if connected to the  
>> internet, if not connected, after a timeOutInterval, an error is  
>> returned and it can be dealt with, no problem.
>>
>> However...
>>
>> Here at our office, we got Time Warner cable internet a few months  
>> ago, and while it is speedy (20 mbits d/l!) every few weeks we  
>> encounter a strange and perhaps rare situation where:
>>
>> 1. we are connected to our ISP
>>
>> 2. but our ISP is not connected to the internet
>>
>>
>> On OS X, network diagnostics show:
>>
>> Ethernet = green
>> Network Settings = green
>> ISP = green
>> Internet = red
>> Server = red
>>
>> When we encounter this "false connection" condition, a browser,  
>> rather than saying "cannot get web page because we're offline" will  
>> hang forever.
>>
>>
>> The danger here that we should all be aware of, is that if you sell  
>> an app that, for example, checks for updates upon launch, if your  
>> customer has this weird connectivity situation, your app will  
>> freeze and the customer is unable to get past this and use the app  
>> they legitimately paid you for.
>>
>> Even if the connectivity problem is rare, this is a situation we  
>> want to avoid at any cost, so we have no automatic connection  
>> routines. If they initiate a network operation, and the app hangs,  
>> they can force quit and launch again, and not do that anymore now  
>> that they know better :-)
>>
>>
>> So, I wondered if any of you had any experience, workarounds or  
>> ideas for detecting this "false connection" condition.
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