Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt
randall at randallreetz.com
Mon Feb 2 20:16:35 CST 2009
I made humble suggestions. For things like curved graphics and web integration. Two things that are hardly radical in 2009!. Then the Skinarian conditioning begins. Again, i have just concluded a phone call with another person who said they have long ago learned to be scared and quiet on these lists. Beat up and raged, well conditioned but no less convinced. But the pain seems to have worked. Silent. As ordered. If you think pointing out the holes in the hull is critical to the ship than you had better know how to swim.
From: "Brian Yennie" <briany at qldlearning.com>
To: "How to use Revolution" <use-revolution at lists.runrev.com>
Sent: 2/2/2009 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt
> Ok, why then is asking for code addressable and rev native curves
> responded to as a threatening request?
I've re-read the thread about 3 times just to make sure I didn't miss
anything. Richard suggested Flex as an alternative. Scott gave some
thoughtful input including his own frustrations on Rev's graphic
capabilities versus thankfulness for good PNG support. I've chimed in
multiple times when you've gone out and started insulting people.
Several people have agreed with you that a native curve object is an
You on the other hand went off the handle calling people attack dogs,
pompous and Putin-like. Mixed in, you constantly belittle Revolution
itself. Do you know the difference between constructive criticism and
Here's my suggestion. Try making some humble suggestions instead of
pushing your grandiose vision on everyone. Because you don't seem to
be able to do it without being offensive. You lament how Rev is
"limping into the present" and "poorly champions" the vision of
Hypercard's creators. You once asked where the "xtalked web functions"
are... and yet many of us are shipping web-enabled products right now
based on the literally dozens of powerful extensions Rev has brought
to xTalk in this area. You stomp all over the idea of sockets being an
acceptable xTalk layer, and yet I ask you... have you tried using
sockets in other language? The power of simply bringing chunk
expressions and xTalk syntax is enormous. And yet you dismiss
something out-of-hand that you clearly know nothing about. That's not
the way to get people to buy into your vision.
You are absolutely free to "burn the flag" and still love your
country, as the analogy goes. But if you're gonna burn a flag among a
bunch of war veterans, you better have some tact in how you go about
it. And don't go ranting about peace and love to them if you can't be
bothered to learn about the wars they fought in.
I for one welcome EVERYONE to share their vision for Rev. Just have a
little humility and patience when you do it. Some people will agree
with you, some will disagree. Some will offer alternative solutions.
In the end, it will surely enrich the topic. I would quite like to
actually discuss some of these features.
How about this. Clearly the two of us specifically clash, and I don't
think we're going to suddenly agree. However, I for one would welcome
a specific wish list of new graphic capabilities including a curve
object. Perhaps one at a time, you could suggest some and we all could
start discussing them, since everyone is probably sick of reading us
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