On-Rev: We've listened

Jan Schenkel janschenkel at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 16 14:41:06 EDT 2009

Hi Kevin et al,

This is simply wonderful news: soon we can build end-to-end desktop-to-server-to-web applications in our beloved language, faster than any other technology stack thanks to its inherent productivity. Well done, indeed!

Just a few questions.

1. The FAQ states:
Can I run legacy Revolution CGI stacks?
Yes, support for this will be enabled within days of launch. (The two engines are not completely compatible.)
Will we be able to create stacks in Rev Studio/Enterprise, upload and use these as libraries via 'start using'? And can they use Rev 3.5 features?
- I think I know the answer, but I just wanted to make sure :-)

2. Along those lines, will we be able to use externals? And for which underlying platform should we build those (Linux, Windows, MacOSX)?

3. Continuing this theme, will we be able to upload and use command-line utilities written in other languages?

4. Is the on-rev module the only one installed, or can we mix, say, php and rev tags in one html file?

Thanks in advance for your reply,

Jan Schenkel
Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution

"As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time."  (La Rochefoucauld)

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com> wrote:

> From: Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com>
> Subject: On-Rev: We've listened
> To: "How to use Revolution" <use-revolution at lists.runrev.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 8:14 AM
> Hi everyone, 
> Just wanted to announce something big, and let you behind
> the scenes a
> little bit.
> Periodically we see posts on the Use and Improve lists
> about using
> Revolution on a server. We all know what a great language
> Rev is, and
> there's been a free server engine out for many years
> that many people have
> enjoyed using. I've tried it myself, but found a lot of
> the same
> frustrations that other have reported. Finding the right
> engine, putting it
> the right place, setting permissions, frustrating and
> confusing errors.
> Wading into Linux-land to figure things out. Dealing with
> ISPs who don't
> want to spend the effort making things work.
> A spat of messages on this topic came up recently. I think
> what you've been
> asking for boils down to this: "Why can't we have
> a best-of-breed hosting
> package combined with a pre-configured Rev server scripting
> environment,
> that just works! No hassle!". Well the timing of this
> discussion was good,
> as we're now ready to introduce something we've
> been planning for a while: a
> proper server version of Revolution.
> Its been a fun process developing the service. We've
> put our newest
> scripting technology up there, so people can start using
> short, easy
> snippets of Rev code in their HTML pages. The engineers
> have come up with
> some neat stuff. A new Internet library that is super-fast
> and low-overhead.
> A scheme for hooking into the server for live debugging.
> And they'll have
> more to bring to the table soon: new syntax for working
> with databases that
> is crystal-clear.
> The plan caught on like wildfire in the office. Everyone
> had something to
> contribute. The enthusiasm was palpable both in the offices
> and in our Skype
> meetings across the oceans. The result in our brand-new
> On-Rev Server
> product, which you can see at http://www.On-Rev.com.
> With On-Rev, we've put it all together for you. This is
> an extremely simple,
> friendly, and easy-to-use server scripting environment
> compared to anything
> else out there or any previous Rev server scripting engine.
> - We've nailed the hosting side of it... you'll
> find it really attractive
> compared to whatever you're using now. Ample disk space
> and bandwidth,
> world-class data center and screaming fast hardware.
> Ultra-reliable. The
> ability to host unlimited domains, spam filtering,
> one-click installs, the
> works. No question this is a hosting plan you'd love.
> - And we've paired it with the alpha release of our
> amazing new server
> scripting platform. Already, as of today, you can play with
> the new server
> Script Editor and Debugger, using the all-new
> second-generation server
> scripting engine. You can a write simple snippet of code,
> like <?rev put the
> time ?>, into your HTML page and boom it just works! If
> there is a problem,
> you can *step through* your server code and watch all your
> environment,
> global and script variables live in real-time! Dear
> heavens, if you have any
> love of Rev coding at all, this should rock your world! Not
> to mention that
> you'll have the chance to give input and help shape the
> direction of the
> service, at the same time you're first in line for all
> of our new goodies
> coming down the pike.
> Ok... there's "one more thing." We appreciate
> our customers, and we want to
> make sure everyone has the opportunity to learn and use Rev
> server
> scripting. We want to see what you can do! Rev-based
> content management
> systems? Online games? A really easy-to-use storefront?
> Multi-user database
> systems? We know you can do it! So... to make this
> irresistible... to make
> it so you have absolutely no reason not to get into our new
> server scripting
> platform at the ground level... we asked one more question:
> "Can we introduce it at $499 for life?"
> We ran the numbers and the answer was a resounding YES...
> as long as we kept
> it to limited numbers and a very short introductory period,
> we could do it.
> Of course we want to reward our loyal customers. But we
> also want to reward
> the early adopters who will be vital in helping us shape
> the service. And we
> need an active community of people using the platform so
> that we have lots
> of experts sharing advice, code for games, blogs, CMS
> systems...you name
> it...
> Now, I already mentioned this is an amazing deal just
> considering the
> hosting. Shop around and you'll find this caliber of
> hosting going for as
> much as $250 a year or $25/month. (We didn't want to
> compete with those
> cramped shared services of
> "unlimited-but-not-really" for 99 cents a month.)
> Again, quality hosting. Pay just once now, and never have
> to worry about
> your hosting payment again. So that alone is going to save
> you thousands of
> dollars over the years for all your domains. But On-Rev is
> not just hosting,
> it's a playground where you've got zero-hassle
> access to the very best
> server technology we've got to offer. Finally you can
> make your vision for
> highly interactive Web 2.0 software a reality!
> $499 for lifetime hosting on our Rev-optimized server is
> our gift to the
> community and we hope you're as excited about it as we
> are. Get all the
> details and sign up for the $499 "Founders"
> special before May 1 at
> http://www.On-Rev.com
> Kind regards,
> Kevin
> Kevin Miller ~ kevin at runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
> Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools
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