"Seamless Tiles Generator 2" updated

-= JB =- sundown at pacifier.com
Sun Oct 12 17:49:51 EDT 2008


Jacque you always provide so much,  thank you.

-=>JB<=-



On Oct 12, 2008, at 11:07 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> -= JB =- wrote:
>> I have only been using Revolution for less than a year now and before
>> that I used hyperCard.  I know about MetaCard but I thought it was
>> replaced by Rev.  So where do I get the MetaCard IDE and after I
>> get it how do I install it properly?
>
> You can download the MC IDE setup stack, and it will download the  
> latest IDE for you and install your copy of the Rev engine into it:
>
> <http://www.hyperactivesw.com/revnet/metacard_setup.zip>
>
> The process is all automated. I suggest including the Rev  
> dictionary option at the bottom of the setup card, since the native  
> MC dictionary is years out of date.
>
>> I have noticed others on the list mention they use MetaCard too.   
>> Will
>> someone please explain why people use MetaCard even though they
>> keep using the latest version of Rev.
>
> MC IDE is just a very stripped-down set of stacks that allow a  
> different way of working with the engine. The primary difference is  
> that the IDE is very minimal -- for example, there is no user  
> interface for most of the properties you see in Rev's property  
> inspector. Instead, a minimal property inspector lets you set the  
> most-used properties, but for others you need to know they exist  
> and use the message box to set them (or install a third-party or  
> original property inspector of your own.) The object browser offers  
> less functionality than the application browser in Rev -- it shows  
> only the current card objects (but on the other hand, that's  
> usually all I'm interested in.) There is no interface at all for  
> many things, such as removing a substack, deleting a stack from  
> RAM, most preferences, etc. For these things you use the message  
> box and you must know the commands. You can write your own plugins  
> to do what some of the Rev IDE does if you like. All the MC IDE  
> stacks are similarly terse. They expect that you already know the  
> capabilities of the engine and are comfortable working with the  
> command line. The engine was originally written for Linux/Unix and  
> the MC IDE reflects this level of comfort.
>
> I frequently work in both IDEs depending on the stack I'm working  
> with. For example, Rev tracks when a field has changed and puts up  
> its "do you want to save" dialog if you change any text in a field.  
> MC IDE does not. For those stacks that routinely change text  
> temporarily in a field, I always launch MC because I don't want the  
> interruption of dismissing the spurious dialog. (I have a small  
> word processing stack, for example, that works with text files. I  
> don't want the actual word processing stack marked as "dirty" just  
> because I typed temporary text into the main field.)
>
> While the disadvantage (or maybe it's an advantage) is that you  
> need to have a good grasp of what the engine can do and the UI is  
> minimal, the advantages are that there is almost no interference  
> from the IDE at all. A tiny frontscript and a small backscript are  
> the only insertions. The IDE does not get in the way, and you can  
> be fairly certain that if you see a bug in the MC IDE it is more  
> likely to be an engine bug than an IDE problem. The freedom to do  
> what you want without interference is much greater in the MC IDE,  
> with the caveat that with freedom comes responsibility -- you can  
> more easily lose your work or wreck the stack because the  
> protections that the Rev IDE offers aren't there.
>
> For my workflow, there are advantages to both IDEs and I switch  
> frequently between them.
>
> -- 
> Jacqueline Landman Gay         |     jacque at hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software           |     http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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