AW: still standard folder under Vista

Tiemo Hollmann TB toolbook at
Sun Sep 9 11:56:52 EDT 2007

Hello Ken,
your Sunday service for roaming is quite enlightening!
I've checked a couple of machine, and they all have "AppData" as well as
"Application Data". The important thing for me is, that I was looking for a
Folder in the users path, which is visible for the user with standard
settings (the "AppData" is invisible in standard). On the other hand the
"Users/documents" folder, which is visible is to "far high up in the folder
hierachy" and too present for the user. That’s why I would have loved to use
the "Application Data", which is standard visible in the user folder. Hmmm


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: use-revolution-bounces at [mailto:use-revolution-
> bounces at] Im Auftrag von Ken Ray
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. September 2007 17:41
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: still standard folder under Vista
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 15:40:20 +0200, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> > 1.	what is the difference between a "local" and a "roaming" folder and
> > which one should I use for a standard ini file?
> Well, the short answer (which I'm 90% sure is correct) is that the
> 'roaming' folder is a user profile that can be redirected to another
> location by a system administrator through the Group Policy Object
> Editor application with the Folder Redirection snap-in. Basically, what
> this means is that in a corporate environment, a user's AppData may
> actually be on another machine (say a server) instead of on the client
> machine. So by writing to Roaming, the data will be written for the
> user to wherever the Roaming folder has been redirected, whereas if you
> write to Local, it will be written on the client machine.
> There's a wonderful and (oddly for Microsoft) informative white paper
> called "Managing Roaming User Data Deployment Guide" that goes into
> this and more (just do a google search for the full title of the white
> paper - should be the first link).
> As to where *you* should write your INI file, that's up to you. If you
> want it to go with the user's profile, wherever it is redirected and
> not tie it to a specific machine, use Roaming. If you don't care, or
> specifically want to tie it to a machine, use Local.
> > 2.	On german Vista installation there is a "C:/Users/Tiemo/AppData"
> > folder (which is a hidden system folder) AND a
> "C:Users/Tiemo/Application
> > Data" folder, which is always visible. What is the difference?
> >
> > 3.	If I use e.g. the special folder "26" (CSIDL_APPDATA) my datas are
> > put to the hidden "C:/Users/Tiemo/AppData" folder. Which special folder
> is
> > the path to the visible "Application Data"? In Ken's table there is no
> > differentiation between these two and I think it could even be a
> > german-vista specific topic?
> This sounds to me like some third-party app is creating the Application
> Data folder because it is isn't calling on the system to find out the
> path (i.e. they hardcoded a path and just created the folders
> inbetween). As such, there's no special folder path to it.
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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