use-revolution Digest, Vol 51, Issue 18

[Peter Brigham]

On Dec 13, 2007, at 1:00 PM "J. Landman Gay"  
<jacque at hyperactivesw.com>, wrote:

> Peter Brigham wrote:
>
>> (I don't want a bunch of buttons just inside
>> the top of the window rect, I want the usual Windows menu placement.)
>> Does it choose whatever button group is visible, as long as it  
>> contains
>> at least one "pulldown" style button? Does the group have to be at  
>> the
>> top of the stack window? Do you have to specify in the Standalone
>> Builder somewhere in the Windows preferences which button group to  
>> use
>> as the menu for the window? In short, how do it know, in Windows???
>> Please would someone explain, in small words.
>
> Rev doesn't "know" per se that you have a menu bar on a Windows stack
> (except in the case of Vista, as Ken mentioned, where setting the
> menubar will apply the Vista colors and behaviors to the menus.) The
> menu group really does sit at the top of the card, just under the  
> window
> frame. If you position the mouse just under the menu bar and ask  
> for the
> mouseV, you won't get "0" (which is what you'd get if the menubar were
> outside the window), you get the height of the menubar group instead.
> The menu takes up space on the card, and is part of the card contents.
>
> Rev doesn't move the menu group on Windows OS or pay any attention to
> its position. You could easily place a menu group in the center of the
> card, and it would stay there. If you want standard Windows placement,
> put the menu group at the top of the card (which is where Rev  
> positions
> it when you use the Menu Builder.) The colors you choose for the
> background and borders of the group can make the menu bar appear to be
> part of the window frame if you like.
>
> Menus on Windows aren't particularly special; they are just regular
> groups with a bunch of pulldown buttons, and they stay where you put
> them. Rev doesn't "choose" a menu group; you could theoretically  
> line up
> several on the same card and Rev wouldn't care.

So to make it look like a standard Window app, I should place the  
button group at the top of the window and put a gray/tan rectangular  
graphic behind it, spanning the width of the card, below the  
titlebar? And hide the graphic for the Mac version? Or will it be  
hidden anyway when the top 20 pixels (or whatever) is clipped for the  
Mac build? Sorry if these are naive questions but I'm clueless about  
Windows and I'm trying to build my first standalone, I want it to  
look at least semi-professional....

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
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