version 7.2 vs 8.0

Thu Apr 26 14:17:01 EDT 2007

Dear Bill,
I think Revolution is a great product, and I am sure that a multiplatform
project requires a lot of work in order to be a "good" product.
In this months I have seen the bugzilla reports and forum discussions and
then I know same patchs proposed by members of this list to fix same
problems.
But I think after a lot of work, these bugs can't be in a final release.
If I sell my commercial software with these errors  the final user asks back
me the money. If I said to my final user that this is a beta version, all it
is different.

-- 
Riccardo Linzitto
TEKNE informatica & comunicazione

> Da: Bill Marriott <wjm at wjm.org>
> Risposta: How to use Revolution <use-revolution at lists.runrev.com>
> Data: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:16:00 -0400
> A: <use-revolution at lists.runrev.com>
> Oggetto: Re: version 7.2 vs 8.0
> 
> Riccardo,
> 
> First, thanks for your comments and especially for going ahead and upgrading
> your license.
> 
> I see you're a member of the "open beta" test group. I'm curious if you are
> experiencing the same issues with Beta 5? If so, please take the time to
> report them in the Quality Center; we really need that data since the next
> build is due soon and expected to be a release candidate for version 2.8.1.
> 
> As we've tried to cover in the newsletter and beta test mailings, the 2.7.5
> target has been renamed to 2.9. That remains our goal for the free update,
> the Linux support, and honestly, the quality bar we're aiming for. Some bugs
> can only be properly addressed by underlying engine work, and since that's
> tied in with Linux, you won't see some major fixes until that version
> emerges.
> 
> Having said that, RunRev engineers have fixed more than 500 bugs since the
> launch of the open beta program (not all of them appear in Bugzilla). The
> Altuit externals have been integrated, which greatly enhance the value of
> the product. Windows Vista, with its new UI, different security scheme, and
> other changes, is now supported. (I happen to run Vista right now, and while
> many programs are flaky under that OS, Revolution is not one of them.)
> 
> I agree that the 2.8.0 release is somewhat controversial. It did have some
> rough edges. Nevertheless, it is a much better product than 2.7.4. And with
> Vista shipping, I think it was important to replace what was out there for
> the benefit of new customers and existing ones alike. Not only that, there
> were some patches posted within a week of its release by members of this
> use-rev list to address many of the issues you listed.
> 
> I give Revolution credit for not simply labeling 2.8.0 as "2.7.5" and
> calling it a day. They knew more work was necessary and they remain
> committed to delivering on their promises.
> 
> My most recent announcement to the beta test list invited everyone to email
> me directly with their "top five" gripes -- old or new -- still remaining in
> the product. I'll take this opportunity to again request this from you, so
> we can pin them down and address them for 2.8.1 and/or 2.9. Actually, any of
> you reading this now are welcome to email me with your list. And we're still
> taking signups for the open beta at http://support.runrev.com/beta_test.php
> 
> I also appreciate the sustained energy of all the "open beta" participants,
> who have put the releases through their paces and been the real driving
> force behind the steady improvement in quality we've seen over the last five
> months. Please keep up the good work! Only with your help can we make 2.9
> truly the version we've all been waiting for, and make Revolution a true joy
> to use.
> 
> Bill Marriott
> Beta Test Coordinator
> bill.marriott(at)runrev.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "TEKNE informatica & comunicazione"
> <tekne at gruppoparentesi.it> wrote in message
> news:C256743B.17108%tekne at gruppoparentesi.it...
> Hi,
> In November 2006 I appreciated the quality project and the Introducing Bill
> Marriott with the plan on the 2.7.5 free update.
> My enthusiasm was not only about the free update but it was mainly focused
> on the quality concept (for example I have bought the RR Studio for Linux
> and the RR Enterprise but after several months I didn¹t still have the 2.7.x
> Linux version)
> After six months I don¹t find a bug free update or a linux update but at
> least I expected that the intense job takes to many steps ahead.
> So after the announcement of the 2.8.0 final release with vista support I
> have decided to upgrade my enterprise licence to 2.8.0 in order to test my
> applications under vista.
> But after the installation I find several serious bugs.
> ... answer dialogs appeare in wrong formats .... (both in IDE and Standalone
> environment)
> ... ask dialog with password doesn¹t work ...
> ... the dimension of a configuration rev file (password protected)
> inexplicably and occasionally grows from 3k to 100000K and more.
> 
> I think these problems depend from the 2.8.0 installation, so I try to
> install again the upgrade both Windows and Mac platform, but ... these are.
> Finally I throw in the basket the 2.8.0-gm-4 (the Mac manage versions
> doesn¹t work ) and I return to work ...
> Perhaps it was better to call the 2.8.0-gm-4 final version 2.8.0-dp4 beta
> version.
> -- 
> Riccardo Linzitto
> TEKNE informatica & comunicazione
> 
> 
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