Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3

Brian Yennie briany at qldlearning.com
Tue Nov 28 06:19:30 EST 2006


Andre,

I'd love to pitch in with some ideas on this if we can get a core  
group going. I've spent most of the last 2 years developing AJAX apps  
with PHP, which is the main reason I've been unusually quiet on this  
list, but I would love to see something pulled together like this. I  
do think there is a great possibility to create a "web deploy" subset  
of Revolution. People are doing more and more interesting things with  
Javascript these days (including but not limited to AJAX). I'd  
actually say that a lot of RunRev functions could be ported to  
Javascript to create a nice compatibility layer.

It seems to me that the magic bullet is going to be the architecture.

My thoughts for project pieces, off the top of my head would be:

1) A standard object-to-HTML/CSS interface for display and layout.  
Map Rev properties to CSS properties, figure out the best way to  
export each type of object, etc. Deal with the positioning issues  
(does everything have an absolute position like in a Rev stack, or?).  
Figure out the logical mappings like Group => DIV

2) Navigation model - how do cards and stacks relate to pages and  
frames, and vice versa in a clear and consistent manner?

3) A core Javascript library, call it "Revolution.js" which exposes  
as many core, client-side Revolution functions as possible

4) A remote function call protocol

5) "Web mode" development environment - a plugin for Rev IDE, a  
separate product?

6) All of the nice-to-haves (visual effects, server-side libraries  
for database access, dialogs, partial page updates, etc, etc)

7) A couple of solid applications of the tool to use as case studies  
and testbeds

I could see myself pitching in on any of these really if we got  
something rolling. #3 is where I could probably do the most damage.  
If you (or anyone) wants to be ringleader, let me know and I'll pitch  
in as much as I can.

- Brian

> Mark,
>
> you know half of this article was written after talking to you... :-)
>
> this piece is just a continuation of our talkings during revcon  
> malta, I want to get something done, even if only to sprout more  
> conversation here.
>
> waiting for your thoughts.
>
> Cheers
> andre
>
> On Nov 28, 2006, at 4:32 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
>
>> Richard-
>>
>> Monday, November 27, 2006, 9:38:23 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>> That's a silly arbitrary limit.  But the post is valuable and  
>>> there are
>>> so many more people here than there that rather than  
>>> inconvenience the
>>> lot of them I've taken the liberty of re-posting your message  
>>> here as
>>> you originally intended, broken into three parts to work within the
>>> silly limit here....
>>
>> Thanks. Much appreciated.
>>
>> -- 
>> -Mark Wieder
>>  mwieder at ahsoftware.net
>>
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