Willem, Do you mean Myst-like games? If so, you're in the right place! Recently, a Myst-esque game was made in Rev called "Alida": http://www.alidagame.com/aboutAlida.html And Myst, of course, was done in Hypercard (with some xtra xcmd help). Judy On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Willem van Heemstra wrote: