sort of OT, CD names to iTunes

[Charles Hartman]

(Thanks -- answered off-list -- I don't want to keep pushing this OT  
item into everybody's mailbox . . .)
Charles

On Feb 19, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Mark Smith wrote:

> Exactly. I'd add the one proviso that it would be better to do the  
> iTunes -> CD step before converting to aac - itunes will  
> effectively convert the aac files back to aif before burning, but  
> aac is lossy, so converting to aac first just puts worse quality on  
> your CD. Once you've burnt your CDs (feeding them in, one at a  
> time, of course), you can set the conversion of the whole lot to  
> aac going, and leave it going....
>
> Mark
>
> On 19 Feb 2006, at 12:09, Alex Tweedly wrote:
>
>> Charles Hartman wrote:
>>
>>> I'm doing a lot of LP -> CD transfers, a process with many steps  
>>> some  of which are silly & tedious. One of them is that, after  
>>> I've split  the digitized audio file into tracks, and named them  
>>> (a little  tedious in itself since I'm using an ancient Toast  
>>> Lite to burn the  CD), and go to import the tracks into iTunes,  
>>> unless it's a recording  known to GraceNote I have to type all  
>>> the track names (and composers)  *again* in the iTunes info  
>>> panel. I was thinking a little Rev stack  to do this would be  
>>> handy (and worth the time if I do *another*  couple of hundred),  
>>> but I'm not sure where to look.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know of a way to get audio track names from CDs and  
>>> load  them into iTunes? Am I missing something obvious?
>>>
>> I am 99.9% sure that the track names are not on an audio CD. If  
>> they were, iTunes, MusicMatch, etc. would surely retrieve them for  
>> us, wouldn't they ?
>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not exactly what you had in mind, I know, but couldn't you just   
>>>> import the digitized files into iTunes as aifs or wavs, enter  
>>>> the  info there, and then burn the CD?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. Of course that also entails converting all the AIFFs to AACs  
>>> and  erasing the AIFFs from disk. The conversion takes long  
>>> enough so  that, when I got started on this, I sensed that it  
>>> would be a little  more obnoxious than this roundabout method.  
>>> (The whole procedure  involves two long waiting steps --  
>>> recording the AIFF from LP in  Sound Studio and running it  
>>> through ClickRepair -- and some busywork,  bookkeeping steps. The  
>>> AIFF->AAC conversion is another long waiting  step, and that's  
>>> what decided me, perhaps wrongly.)
>>
>> I guess maybe I'm not understanding the current work flow (versus  
>> what Mark suggested).
>>
>> I think today you do:
>> 1. LP -> AIFF
>> 2. AIFF -> CD
>> 3. CD -> iTunes
>>
>> Mark is proposing
>> a. LP -> AIFF
>> b. AIFF -> iTunes
>> c. AIFF to AAC convert within iTunes
>> d. iTunes -> CD
>>
>> Note that b and c can be combined into a single step using the  
>> scripting interface to iTunes, but I don't think they can be using  
>> the iTunes UI. If there is a way to do that in one step, please  
>> tell me how  :-)
>>
>>
>> Clearly 1 and a are the same
>>
>> 2 and d are equivalent (limited by speed of burning - maybe iTunes  
>> can do it faster than your old Toast Lite, but in general the same)
>>
>> b is (for me) almost instantaneous - no file copy, no conversion,  
>> merely adds some entries in the iTunes database)
>>
>> and, finally, c is faster than 3  -- the conversion (in my case  
>> WAV to AAC) happens faster than I ever achieve on CD import into  
>> iTunes. Importing a CD varies between 5x and 8x speed, while file  
>> conversion is reliably faster than 10x.
>>
>>
>>
>> Converting AIFF rather CD into iTunes has the benefit of being  
>> entirely scriptable - no physical handling of CDs every 5 minutes.  
>> If you have enough disk space, you can spend all day importing  
>> your LPs to AIFF and naming tracks, then leave your script to do  
>> all the import and convert while you have dinner.
>>
>> btw - yes, I do wish I had known all this six months ago when I  
>> did a few LPs and found it sufficiently painful that I haven't yet  
>> done all the rest of them.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Alex Tweedly       http://www.tweedly.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
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