Morfik

[Brian Yennie]

What's with the Apple bashing, really? Mozilla is NOT the standard,  
the standard is the standard. Konqueror (on which Safari is based) is  
open source also, and no less compliant. Opera is probably the most  
compliant browser out there, and Safari was the first to pass the  
Acid2 test.

There are no compliant browsers, period. Opera, FireFox and Safari  
all have high levels of compatibility but they aren't all the same.  
As a result, it still matters what browsers you test against. About  
the only certain thing is that you'll spend at least half of your  
time dealing with IE if you hope to be browser independent.

Compliancy definitely has a lot of gray area because it's hideously  
complex to achieve, but saying that you'd expect Apple to produce  
something that nobody else has sounds like sour grapes. Even though  
it's a tired subject, it's also pretty hard to ignore the impact of  
IE pretty much destroying the efficiency of web developers seeking  
browser independence.

> Or...
> putting it another way...
>
> You'd think in this day and age, Apple would make Safari a compliant
> browser, especially since Mozilla Firefox is open source, works on  
> Macs and
> complies to the latest standards (perhaps it may even be considered  
> the
> standard at this point).
>
> Guess it depends upon one's viewpoint. ;-)
>