data-design question

david bovill david at
Mon Sep 26 07:20:59 CDT 2005

On 26 Sep 2005, at 14:08, Charles Hartman wrote:

> No, they don't. Non-jazz example: go to CDDB and search on  
> 'Eveningland'. There's the CD, and the group name Hem -- no  
> personnel. Or search on 'Flute Fever' -- a great 1963 jazz album by  
> Jeremy Steig. No result -- never transferred to CD. (Anybody got  
> it? I'd pay happily for a copy!)
> Clearly the data I want isn't the data everybody wants. I don't  
> need to know the name of the third chair second violinist in the  
> Cleveland orchestra recording of Brahms symphonies under George  
> Szell; I do want to know the drummer who's driving a jazz quartet.  
> The popular databases are attuned, of course, almost entirely to  
> popular music. (They can't figure out, in classical music, how to  
> use the "Artist" and "Composer" fields that iTunes reports.) Sorry  
> -- end of rant.

Not a rant - appreciated. have the same problem here. There are  
general metadata schemas for video - you can include Spotlight  
metadata for QuickTime and iTunes in this bag (although there are  
much more complicated and comprehensive ones) - and the question is  
how to make this fit with the very specific needs of for instance the  
fine art VJ scene here in Vienna.

Same issue. However the advantage of standards or more to the point  
the ability to communicate in a standardised way (search exchange  
etc) - means that the specialised information gets out to a wider  
audience, and second that you can take advantage of tools that are  
developed and maintained by a larger community.

Here the question I am restling with is can I hack Spotlight metadata  
schemas - to satisfy the main needs of the video, art and TV scene  
here + how to build the specialist stuff on top of  - or to the side  
of this more general infrastructure.

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