Language ideas

MisterX b.xavier at internet.lu
Fri May 20 23:18:02 EDT 2005


> In my opinion to English'ish is very error prone, because 
> every body has his way of talking. True, transcript is 
> English but English has many versions.
> Besides the fact that RR is already a very big language. 
> Therefore I think the best way is a bit scheme or some kind 
> of formality and not, e.g. If there is a or so on. Also in 
> your case 70 percent of RR has has to be changed and 10 
> percent omitted (which I would prefer) IsNumber change to 
> "number" and number change to amount or count selectedLine, 
> hilitedLine.
> Now in a case like this I'd rather suggest to add a function 
> "thereIs" or something alike, instead of looping to equate.
> Hershel Fisch

Hershel,

Hehe he he... play the nemo music and here is that Laugh....

 But it's all in TAOO already my dear ;)

Is?
Has?
List?
Create?
Delete?

whatisit? (under construction) ;)

DeleteIt [obj|[<type>,<id or name of it>]]
and it all makes sense! 

But this has been in TAOO for 15 years ;)... 

Ambiguity... yes... yum... I love it! It's the best part of it all! 
But until you get into TAOO, there's no point in explainingit!

It would be too abstract... And you dont get nothing for nothing either ;)

Whether for TAOO or RunRev's enrichment, and as a polyglot of relatively
good talent and lifelong experience learning a new language every 1 or 2
years, including grammar and semantics and all that rule stuff including
some creative writing, i couldn't agree more with you there's more than one
way to parse or interpret. 

Then there's another way... And it's not "la langue de bois" aka the wooden
tongue of diplomatic/political garbage non-saying. Besides the point, im
sure Rev and all here will like some high quality and more intuitive (hence
faster) ways of scripting. How much better if it is more flexible,
attractive, easier and definitely with less ambiguous results?

The new object oriented things Kevin announced at the revChat was a good
indication of good client "ideology" listening they do, if I read it
right... That includes new scripting issues we'll find and limitations we
could do without. I think an expert opinion can only do some good. If i keep
this offlist is to concentrate it for better efficiency! 

cheers
Xav

> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com 
> [mailto:use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
> Hershel Fisch
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 19:54
> To: x at monsieurx.com, How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: Language ideas
> 
> On 5/20/05 6:50 AM, "MisterX" <b.xavier at internet.lu> wrote:
> 
> > Im compiling a bugzilla enhancement to make transcript more natural
> > 
> > if there is a drive x then
> > if there is a control c in group g
> In my opinion to English'ish is very error prone, because 
> every body has his way of talking. True, transcript is 
> English but English has many versions.
> Besides the fact that RR is already a very big language. 
> Therefore I think the best way is a bit scheme or some kind 
> of formality and not, e.g. If there is a or so on. Also in 
> your case 70 percent of RR has has to be changed and 10 
> percent omitted (which I would prefer) IsNumber change to 
> "number" and number change to amount or count selectedLine, 
> hilitedLine.
> Now in a case like this I'd rather suggest to add a function 
> "thereIs" or something alike, instead of looping to equate.
> Hershel Fisch
> 
> > 
> > if a=b or if b=c then
> Well in this one, if a=b or c=d is shorter and clearer.
> > if a is (b or c) then
> Or if a = (b or c)
> > put a into b and c
> Or put a into b,c This is something that would be good.
> > 
> > etc...
> > 
> > This might bring in lots of flexibilities and less 
> semantical "typos" 
> > as we usually type them naturally... And make scripting 
> even easier or 
> > more intuitive and less error prone. HyperTalk was much 
> better at this 
> > - however it's more bug prone too in the long-term.
> > 
> > Please send me your ideas offline so I can sort and make them as 
> > bugzilla friendly as possible for the good folk at Runrev 
> and make it 
> > easier for them to see the advantages...
> > 
> > TAOO note: a natural language parser for msg box or speech recog is 
> > coming so this goes both ways for the rev community and 
> those interested in TAOO.
> > Other languages parsing is planned too, notably french, spanish, 
> > german, italian so far. Last but not least, the TAOO script editor 
> > already has a translation module capable of interpreting 
> these but the 
> > dictionaries are still pretty much blank given the lack of 
> need/use for the moment.
> > 
> > regards,
> > Xavier
> > http://MonsieurX.com - poliglot software too!
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