Frank D. Engel, Jr.
fde101 at fjrhome.net
Tue Mar 8 14:42:58 CST 2005
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As I find the time for it, I might try putting one together for Pascal,
and maybe even Java or Ada, but this may not happen for a while.
Again, this would be good stuff for a search feature in the Rev docs...
On Mar 8, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
> It might be a useful idea for people who know other languages --
> of list of equivalents that would enable at least a sort of basic
> cross-language cross-reference into the Transcript docs.
> My guess is that the total number of such links isn't huge for each
> On Mar 8, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> Mark Wieder wrote:
>>> Absolutely spot on. Example: in topics, searching for "static" (as in
>>> "static text") brings up a handful of entries, at least one of which
>>> talks about label fields. However, filtering on "static" brings up a
>>> total of nothing. Nada. Zilch.
>> This must be "static text" week, as the subject has come up
>> frequently in multiple venues. I believe there may be two cognitive
>> issues at play, both of which may be addressible in the docs and UI:
>> 1. Implied object types
>> This issue could be seen as arising from a mismatch between an object
>> model inferrable from the Rev IDE UI and the far simpler one in the
>> underlying language itself.
>> Given the myriad icons in the IDE's tool pallete, and reinforced
>> through descriptions which suggest a different native object type
>> like "label field", it's understandable that one might infer that
>> this is somehow a different object from an ordinary field, and indeed
>> in many (most?) other languages static text is implemented as a
>> different class from editable text fields.
>> The actual Transcript object model is much simpler:
>> Text is displayed in fields.
>> The lockText property governs whether that text can be edited.
>> I respect the apparent design initiative of the IDE's toolbar, which
>> allows you to create buttons and fields with a great many properties
>> preset for greater convenience.
>> But maybe the core question here for learning is: Could design
>> enhancements be made which would provide the same level of
>> convenience enjoyed currently but also make more it more clear that
>> most of the "object types" are actually variants of a much simpler
>> set of objects merely with varying property settings?
>> 2. Accomodation of common nomenclature
>> "Static text" is a widely-used term in a great many languages and
>> tools. Although there is no need for a separate object type to
>> provide that since Transcript's fields do it well today, it would be
>> tremendously helpful to have such terms indexed in the docs so that
>> they point to the corresponding Transcript term/object.
>> Such indexing is difficult, as it requires a significant time
>> committment from the subset of available resources who understand
>> multiple tools/language intimately enough to anticipate such
>> conceptual overlap.
>> So maybe an interim process to start work on such index expansion
>> might be an extension of the "user notes" facility, which would allow
>> ad hoc additions to the search endex. As related terms become
>> evident, anyone could log them into a pool which is queued for the
>> next release.
>> It may also be useful to see a reinstatement of the old Getting
>> Started info, which included specialized orientations for new users
>> coming from experience with a variety of other tools. If that were
>> extended with a reference of common terms and methods from other
>> popular languages pointing to their Transcript counterparts it could
>> play a strong role in flattening the learning curve for those picking
>> up Transcript as a second language.
>> Richard Gaskin
>> Fourth World Media Corporation
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Frank D. Engel, Jr. <fde101 at fjrhome.net>
$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
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