Embedded objects in fields

Dan Shafer revdan at danshafer.com
Mon Jul 4 17:40:17 EDT 2005


I'd be inclined to have the More Info button outside the field and  
have it activate only when appropriate (e.g., when the user has  
scrolled all the way through the field or reached a certain point or  
whatever).

But that's just me.

Dan

On Jul 4, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:

> Oh, I think as a generalization that makes excellent sense. In this  
> particular case, it may or may not. This is a straight, lame, read- 
> this-card tutorial app; some cards are too long not to scroll  
> (already less than ideal from a UI standpoint, but I don't want to  
> make the stack as big as the biggest card, or keep changing the  
> stack's size, and many cards are such clear logical units they  
> can't be broken up without creating conceptual confusion). A few  
> cards have special go-here-for-more-information buttons, and those  
> buttons are logically attached to particular pieces of the text.
>
> Within that framework, I don't see how to do otherwise than the bit  
> whose ugliness you're quite right to point out. Of course the whole  
> framework may be screwy -- but that's a very large question about  
> the design & efficacy of on-screen tutorials.
>
> Charles Hartman
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
>
>
>> Just my two cents -- and it's a holiday here so my brain may be  
>> otherwise engaged -- I think putting buttons into scrolling fields  
>> is a terrible UI idea. By definition, it puts certain  
>> functionality out of the reach of the user until and unless s/he  
>> scrolls the field. Lotus NOtes allowed this and every time I saw  
>> an app designed to take advantage of it, users got confused.
>>
>> I suspect I feel the same way about buttons in scrolling GROUPS.  
>> Interactive functionality needs to be where users  
>> can...well...interact with it, no?
>>
>> Dan (who fears he's probably started another one of those "up your  
>> opinion" threads that are so much fun)
>>
>>
>> On Jul 4, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Charles Hartman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 1:04 PM, Mathewson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have just downloaded the SuperCard 4.5 demo and found
>>>> they have a new feature:
>>>>
>>>> allowObjects
>>>>
>>>> this lets the user embed object (images and so on) inside
>>>> FIELDS:
>>>>
>>>> WOW - I would love scrolling text fields with pictures!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- and buttons! (At the moment I'm doing this is a non-scrolling  
>>> field inside a scrolling group, but aside from being tedious that  
>>> has other disadvantages, such as the scroll-wheel not working  
>>> right.)
>>>
>>> Charles Hartman
>>>
>>>
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