New user just introducing myself...
ambassador at fourthworld.com
Tue Feb 22 22:00:40 CST 2005
Todd Higgins wrote:
> Like Len Morgan (another Revolution beginner on the list - Hi Len)
> I am having a hard time grokking Revolution. It seems like most
> people who come to Revolution have had previous experience with
Personally, I feel that absolutely must change for Rev to become truly
popular. HyperCard's been dead for years, and most of its fans have
already found Rev or something else that floats their boat. We can't
rely on the handful of people still walking the decks of that sunken
ship forever. So you're the IDEAL guinea pig. Welcome. :)
I hope you'll post every question that comes into your mind, as much as
you feel like typing. There are a lot of newcomers here who are less
vocal, so don't be worried that it won't interest folks here. Just
about everything interests folks here.
Not only are posts from someone like you valuable to the hundreds here
in your position, but they are enormously valuable to those of us who do
training and to RunRev themselves, as they serve to help us see the
product through eyes we no longer have: new eyes seeing it for the
> When I was evaluating Revolution previously, I remember seeing
> a tutorial section under help. I couldn't seem to find it in
> the 2.5 version, so I just ordered Dan's book : )
Somehow the "Getting Started" stuff fell out of v2.5 -- not sure how
that happened, but I'm sure they're rushing an update which will restore
that critical missing element.
But in the meantime you're in the minority who likes reading manuals so
you're already off to a powerful start. :)
> What other good habits would I do well to develop?
Whenever I learn a new language I read the Language Guide cover to
cover. Well, that's a lie -- what I really do is skim it. But even just
skimming will give you the lay of the land, and you'd be surprised how
much you'll retain from that. Like most things, it's often less
important to know everything than to just know where to find out about
everything. A skim through the Language Guide will imprint things in
your mind which will help you hunt down the details when you need them
later. It'll also spark ideas, as you come across thing you hadn't
thought about before and go, "Wow, that's pretty cool."
Andre Garzia wrote:
> The four things I think no xTalker should ever live without are:
> * the altToolbar plugins.
> * the devolution toolkit by Richard from Fourth World
> * The revNET plugin. Also by Fourth World
> * the PrefsBuilder plugin by Frederic Rinaldi
All good stuff and worth using. But speaking for my stuff:
- revNet is already pre-installed;
- devolution can be useful, but I would encourage you to work with
the native IDE first before getting too loaded down with extras.
You'll appreciate the extras more that way, and there's enough
in the Rev IDE that I'm always concerned about overwhelming
someone. devolution is free to use so you can always pick
it up any time when you get the urge to explore.
Having done a lot of "Transcript as a second language" training over the
years, I've found the learning curve often follows this pattern:
Day one: "What the hell is going on? Why doesn't anything work
like I expect? I hate this damn thing."
Two days: "Omigawd, the potential is incredible! If only I knew
how to use it all..."
Two weeks: "After reading the language guide and trying some
things out, I'm able to do truly productive work."
One month: "Now I can do productive work efficiently."
Three months: "With the flexibility of the language and the handy
tools in Revolution, I'm seeing slightly greater
productivity than in my formerly-favorite tool I'd
used for years."
Six months: "I love this thing."
One year: "I love this thing like no other."
I look forward to reading another few dozens posts from you. :)
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