'add' Page NOT Screen vs Page vs Card!!
Judy Perry
jperryl at ecs.fullerton.edu
Mon Mar 29 16:19:56 EST 2004
What name calling? I didn't say he was elitist, merely that people who
frown on someone else's tool because it uses words like "card" etc. are
elitist.
My arguments are simply:
(1) you can't add every possible keyword analog in every other language to
Rev's language and expect it to be usable/learnable.
(2) the word "card", far from being some silly idol, continues to be a
useful and well-understood metaphor for a tool that can produce
information presented in both a linear and a non-linear function, unlike a
book, which is largely used in a linear fashion except in special distinct
circumstances.
Judy
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, Dar Scott wrote:
> The problem is that even your simple suggestion is taken as being
> against non-programmers. I find the notion that anybody who is not
> bowing down to the word 'card' is against non-programmers to be
> offensive.
>
> For my part, and in particular, I have never seen John take a
> programmer elitist position and I don't intend to take such a position
> either. John didn't ask for me to speak up, and probably would have
> preferred I did not, but the name-calling upset me and I found no basis
> for it. This was no simple discussion of ideas in which an opinion of
> some idea was that it was elitist. It was a completely unfounded
> attack on another. I addressed that as kindly as I could and with
> humor, but I don't think that got to the card priesthood.
>
> The card is a useful metaphor. Once it become an idol or a stick to
> hurt others, it gets in my way.
>
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